Posted on 08/05/2017 11:51:19 AM PDT by lowbridge
Cal State plans to drop placement exams in math and English as well as the noncredit remedial courses that more than 25,000 freshmen have been required to take each fall — a radical move away from the way public universities traditionally support students who come to college less prepared than their peers.
In an executive order issued late Wednesday, Chancellor Timothy P. White directed the nation’s largest public university system to revamp its approach to remedial education and assess new freshmen for college readiness and course placement by using high school grades, ACT and SAT scores, previous classroom performance and other measures that administrators say provide a more accurate and comprehensive understanding of students’ knowledge.
Cal State will no longer make those students who may need extra help take the standardized entry-level mathematics (ELM) exam and the English placement test (EPT).
The new protocol, which will go into effect in fall 2018, “facilitates equitable opportunity for first-year students to succeed through existing and redesigned education models,” White wrote in a memorandum to the system’s 23 campus presidents, who will be responsible for working with faculty to implement the changes. The hope is that these efforts will also help students obtain their degrees sooner — one of the public university system's priorities. Cal State has committed to doubling its four-year graduation rate, from 19% to 40%, by 2025.
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Note to Self: Throw any resumes from Cal State grads into the trash can.
Placent exams are raciss.
In other words, those who have no business in college.
Watch for the regular freshman math and English to be dumbed down to the remedial level or the teachers pressured to pass the incompetent.
We went from a fairly educated country to one where we reward stupidity and bring in the college educated from the third world. Suicidal. Thank you uniparty
A new reality is manufactured and “poof” the problem goes away.
“The hope is that these efforts will also help students obtain their degrees sooner — one of the public university system’s priorities. Cal State has committed to doubling its four-year graduation rate, from 19% to 40%, by 2025.”
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Thus cheapening the value of a Cal State degree...
Will they lower tuition accordingly?
Most employers made that determination years ago.
That was my reaction, but then I wondered: Are they going to dumb-down subsequent courses, or are they just saying: If you’re not prepared, you’ll be going home in a semester.
I don’t know which it is.
Just once, I would like to see something in society get TOUGHER rather than weaker.
Actually in some ways this could be good. Poor SAT/grades? No thank you. Try community college (which is also becoming even dumber; I know, working there).
It sounds like the former. Of course. Because they think tests are “mean”. (They also cost more for the univ to execute.)
MEMO
To: HR
From: The boss
Subject: Cal State
Effectively immediately, This company will hire no recent graduates of Cal States nor solicit no interns.
Cal State graduates are deemed sub par.
What am I missing here? The schools no longer will give placement tests. So, the school will not know those new students deficient in English and Math.
OK, so those students gain entry. Would they not, due to their insufficient English and Math knowledge, have a higher flunk out rate, or are the teachers going to dumb down the class exams so these unprepared students can simply glide through?
Unless they get the teachers to lower their standards, these students will be flunking out sooner than under the present system. That could be a good thing.
Ah . . . a new home for stupid high school graduates who will get worthless degrees . . . that’ll help get you hire, huh?
Oh, good. Maybe I can get in now.
“Watch for the regular freshman math and English to be dumbed down to the remedial level or the teachers pressured to pass the incompetent. “
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I taught English composition at a community college in Denver. I could NOT believe the skill level incoming students had. From poor spelling to illogical thinking to things that looked like they were cut and pasted from the Internet, it ran the gamut.
I felt bad for these people and tried my best to spend personal time with them (that’s really the only way to help many students improve).
CSU diplomas are now almost worthless in the job market
That’s what I thought it means...
Either don’t enroll them because they don’t qualify or just let them wash out...
I cant see them tightening up on their requirements unless this is a MAGA moment...
“Oh, good. Maybe I can get in now.”
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LOL, literally! ;)
You deserve an honorary degree...but from someplace better. :)
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