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Posted on 07/30/2017 7:25:40 AM PDT by simpson96

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To: wyowolf
Good ole whitey commits just as many horrible crimes. Strangely i rarely if ever see them here...these perps deserve swift justice no doubt. But they are far from the only ones out there..

That is true, since whites are still the majority of the population. However, the percentage of the scary crimes against persons by blacks vs by whites idiffers: a larger percentage of persons of color commit crimes against individuals (rape, murder, armed robbery).

Also bothersome are the PC attitudes of justice officials and the media's double standard of blaming whites for all racism, but remaining silent or denying it when persons of color commit obvious hate crimes, such as the one in this thread where the perps openly admitted their intention to target whites. For another example, people get stirred up by the media and activists to believe that police shoot blacks at a higher rate than they do whites, but just the opposite is true.

So it's not so much the race of the people; it's the hypocrisy and outright lies of the media that are the major irritant.

101 posted on 07/30/2017 1:05:34 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (I was not elected to continue a failed system. I was elected to change it. --Donald J. Trump)
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To: Albion Wilde

That is true... as a percentage they are worse. But it seems like if you read FR...they are the only bad guys out there.


102 posted on 07/30/2017 1:11:04 PM PDT by wyowolf (Be ware when the preachers take over the Republican party...)
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To: americas.best.days...

And not having so many sexual partners that DNA testing is necessary to verify paternity.


103 posted on 07/30/2017 1:49:51 PM PDT by Scarpetta (I'm surrounded by progtards and cuckservatives.)
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To: mowowie

Posters like Phil are impregnable to the hard facts of life.


104 posted on 07/30/2017 1:53:34 PM PDT by Scarpetta (I'm surrounded by progtards and cuckservatives.)
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To: EEGator

I live in a very diverse area. Black drivers of all ages are just awful (aggressive, slouching, distracted). I had one today (a woman) speed around my stopped car as I was letting pedestrians cross into the parking lot. She almost hit a little child. I followed her and yelled “you could’ve killed her!” She countered “but I didn’t bitch!” I have a well of hatred building up more and more each day.


105 posted on 07/30/2017 2:03:40 PM PDT by Scarpetta (I'm surrounded by progtards and cuckservatives.)
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To: sargon
There actually is a race war of sorts going on in the country, and has been for some time. What's confusing you is that not all black Americans are interested in such a thing, so you assume it doesn't exist, but it is a situation remarkably similar to the of the muslims: a subset of the population as a whole commits the crimes, but a sizable chunk if not the majority of the population tacitly supports or sympathizes with the criminals, at least when the crime is overtly racial. Look at the OJ verdict.

The 95% Democrat voting record of the black American population is an example of this. Democrats get their automatic vote because they've managed to convince blacks that Republicans are all old white guys. The black folks then vote against Republicans because screw old white guys. The majority of the voters may not be interested in any race war. They may not even harbor any particular animosity toward white people on the street, but they vote very race-consciously, in a way that white people don't fully understand.

Even if we assume that only 30% of the black American population has been indoctrinated with white hatred enough to act upon it (an extremely low estimate, IMO, especially when you take into consideration that at least 30% of white people hate themselves due to anti-white propaganda) then we're still talking about .3 x .12 x 300,000,000 = 10,800,000 people who hate white people, and if only 10% of those are indoctrinated enough to commit violence based on that hatred, .1 x 10,800,000 = 1,080,000 people ready to attack whitey at the first opportunity. Imagine an army of 1,080,000 hostile people spread around the US.

But numbers are just numbers. I'll tell you from my own, personal experience that a lot of seemingly pleasant black people harbor extremely prejudiced and often hateful views toward white people deep inside, whether they act on them or not. Does this mean I want a race war? Nope. I know darn well there are plenty of good black folks out there and a race war would destroy them. What we need is to address the anti-white, anti-American propaganda that feeds this whole thing. The first step toward doing that is to recognize that the problem exists.
106 posted on 07/30/2017 2:13:05 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: wyowolf

I’ve only been robbed by blacks. Only blacks have vandalized my vehicle and stolen items from inside it. I have only had fraudulent workman’s comp claims by blacks against my business. I have only had dogs abandoned by blacks. I have only had dogs mistreated by leaving them in cars during the Summer by blacks. I have only been assaulted by blacks. Blacks by far don’t pay their bills in proportion to whites. I see far more disparity with the law abiding attitude of whites compared to blacks. I get my bias honestly.


107 posted on 07/30/2017 2:18:27 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: fr_freak
Does this mean I want a race war? Nope.

That's the salient point. Neither does anyone else with a brain want a race war, and, despite opinions to the contrary, most blacks have brains as well.

It's those who seemingly are cheering for a race war—on either side—who must accept the fact that fomenting one is an ardent desire of the Enemy.

As I noted, one of the most effective ways for the Enemy to divert attention from its own machinations is to convince its victims to quarrel with each other. This tactic is as old as the hills: divide the opposition into factions, get them to blame each other for their respective problems, and thereby avoid being held responsible for their own crimes.

There can be no doubt that there are elements in the national power structure who go out of their way to exacerbate racial tensions—Barack Obama, for instance. Why play into the hands of their ilk? Even if such provocateurs do convince gullible elements on either side that a "race war" is either desirable or inevitable, it remains the wrong solution to the wrong problem, and would—if carried to its bloody conclusion—resolve absolutely nothing.

Real Americans will put a stop to such nonsense—on both misguided sides—if it ever becomes necessary. Fortunately, it won't, because Blacks, Whites, Latinos, and everyone else in the middle & working classes will unite against the real Enemy long before it succeeds in fomenting any "ethnic cleansing" in America...

108 posted on 07/30/2017 2:40:48 PM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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To: sargon
The truly salient point is that white people are already being targeted by some racist blacks right now, for theft, rape and murder. Recognizing that not every black American is like that doesn't change that fact. Singing kumbayah doesn't change that. One must acknowledge the problem, and deal with the problem. So, anyone who denies there is a race war ongoing, or racial conflagration if you prefer, is merely trying to solve the problem by denying it exists.
109 posted on 07/30/2017 2:50:02 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: wyowolf
That is true... as a percentage they are worse. But it seems like if you read FR...they are the only bad guys out there.

There are plenty of white crime stories on here, especially child abuse by parents or rape of children by teachers, often female. But as in my earlier post, not only the percentage but also the type of crime in either group differs. I ran a pinglist on the white ex-cop who shot and killed a young white father for texting in a movie theater, as one example. There are lots of crime stories on FR involviing whites.

There are also "hero" stories about blacks—in recent memory, the two black Capital Police officers who took out the white shooter at the Congressional ball game. Or the black bouncer from Hard Rock Cafe who helped apprehend the terrorist who drove his car through crowds of people on the sidewalk in New York City a few weeks back. Just off the top of my head. They were all over FR for days.

110 posted on 07/30/2017 3:42:14 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (I was not elected to continue a failed system. I was elected to change it. --Donald J. Trump)
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To: sargon; fr_freak
one of the most effective ways for the Enemy to divert attention from its own machinations is to convince its victims to quarrel with each other.

You're the one doing the quarreling here. You're the one with the high-minded virtue signalling, scolding everyone else with biased statements like, "despite opinions to the contrary, most blacks have brains as well." Who said anything of the kind? The main complaints have been political ideology (Democrat) and bad attitude (racist).

111 posted on 07/30/2017 3:49:27 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (I was not elected to continue a failed system. I was elected to change it. --Donald J. Trump)
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To: silverleaf

Way cool idea — duress codes at ATM machines.


112 posted on 07/30/2017 3:59:16 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("Negative people make healthy people sick." - Roger Ailes)
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To: fr_freak
So, anyone who denies there is a race war ongoing, or racial conflagration if you prefer, is merely trying to solve the problem by denying it exists.

So what is the response supposed to be? Answering hatred with hatred? Bigotry with bigotry?

Hating or even blaming those who aren't engaging in racially-motivated attacks—simply because they share the same skin color with those who are—is neither constructive nor legitimate. Doesn't that sound like the same thing that racist Black thugs are doing? I don't buy into the "we must become the enemy we hate" line of reasoning.

Look at some other Blacks, like Tommy Sotomayor. There are many in the Black community who feel the same way he does, but are afraid to speak out—and for good reason.

How about instead we hold individuals responsible for their actions, instead of painting with such a broad brush—just like some of us accuse them of doing?

Nobody—certainly not me—is saying that singing kumbaya is any solution. Establishing Equal Justice is one solution, and that includes holding, for instance, police responsible when they are guilty of murder, abuse and brutality—instead of almost always getting away with it.

It's important to admit that this problem is multifaceted—for instance acknowledging the horrible ramifications of young men growing up without fathers, and facing the fact that there is rampant racism being nurtured in the Black community. Indeed, at this point, there's probably significantly more of it than there is in the White community. It should also at the same time be acknowledged that there are historical reasons for this—even if citing those historical reasons as an excuse for violence and crime is never legitimate.

My main thought in all of this is that we must address these problems as Americans by uniting together to solve them—not by Balkanizing, which will only make things worse. It's not "us versus them". Racism is an Enemy that slithers its way through both camps, to varying degrees. We mustn't each exist on mutually exclusive islands—we must find common ground on which to wage this fight and address its root causes.

Therefore, whether one believes that there is a "race war" or not, it does not follow that escalating that alleged war is any way to fight it—much less "win" it. Anyone that takes that route is going to find themselves repudiated by post-racial America—which is where the vast majority of the People already live—regardless of which "side" they imagine themselves to be on.

Encouraging a "race war" mentality is unquestionably a tool designed to keep the People from turning their attention to the real Enemy: those who seek to destroy our Republic by undermining all aspects of its rich and vibrant culture—whether White, Black, Latino, or any other...

113 posted on 07/30/2017 4:25:30 PM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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To: sargon
Recognizing that a race war exists is not the same as fomenting one. I didn't see anyone on here advocating hating all black people. You are imagining things and, quite frankly, you are showing classic signs of the anti-white brainwashing that has been going on for decades now. Your brain is struggling to find a justification for remaining passive and submissive while someone else beats you (and I mean you in the metaphorical sense).

If we see clear evidence that there is a strong strain of anti-white racism that exists in the black American community (and a lot of other communities quite frankly) and that anti-white racism is manifesting itself in horrendous acts of murder, rape and theft against white people specifically because they are white, then recognizing that fact does not equate to "Hating or even blaming those who aren't engaging in racially-motivated attacks—simply because they share the same skin color ". It is simply a recognition of an ongoing phenomenon in order to resolve the issue. We cannot even discuss this issue rationally without recognizing the racial component of it.

In fact, your reaction is identical to that of the Left in their efforts to protect the muslims. A muslim shoots up a bar screaming "Allah Akbar" and the first reaction of every leftwinger is to bemoan the rise of "islamaphobia" and cry about "racist backlash" if one person even makes a peep about islam being a problem. It is a brainwashing technique used to keep people passive while they are being conquered and enslaved.
114 posted on 07/30/2017 4:41:24 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: fr_freak
I didn't see anyone on here advocating hating all black people.

I can't stress strongly enough how utterly underwhelming your psychoanalysis is. I know who the f-ck I am, and I'm not imagining a d-mn thing. So pardon me if I tell you you have no idea what you're talking about, at least with respect to your shallow analysis of the inner workings of my brain.

Now—as for seeing anyone on here advocating for hating all black people, I don't recall seeing much of that here either.

Now, how about the person—a grown adult, presumably—who said "I've never met a black who wasn't racist"? I'm not sure about overt hatred, but it's definitely broad-brushing, wouldn't you say?

Why don't you subject him some of your incisive psychoanalysis?

If we see clear evidence that there is a strong strain of anti-white racism that exists in the black American community (and a lot of other communities quite frankly) and that anti-white racism is manifesting itself in horrendous acts of murder, rape and theft against white people specifically because they are white, then recognizing that fact does not equate to "Hating or even blaming those who aren't engaging in racially-motivated attacks—simply because they share the same skin color ".

I'm not saying that it does equate to that. But it certainly can in some people, and I've seen that precise reaction before, even if not in this particular thread.

In fact, your reaction is identical to that of the Left in their efforts to protect the muslims.

There's lies, and there's damn lies, and that's a damn lie.

How convenient. How very cut-and-dried. How sloppy and propagandist of you.

How many Leftists do you know who note that there's far more racism in the Black community than there is in the White community? Zero, that's how many.

How many Leftists make it a point to decry the total lack of fathers in the Black community, resulting in young men who grow up without any positive male role model? Zero, that's how many.

If you're going to resort to insults like that—insults which expose such breathtaking naiveté—then I have no further interest in engaging in this "discussion".

Hey, I've got an idea! While you're spewing ignorant insults, why don't you question my patriotism as well? That would be equally as cogent.

Good day.

115 posted on 07/30/2017 6:04:46 PM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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To: simpson96

what a great role model - she will be a great FBI agent.


116 posted on 07/30/2017 9:22:16 PM PDT by KingofZion
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To: sargon
Let me clarify, so you can calm down a bit. I'm not saying you're a leftist, nor am I saying you are trying to protect muslims, nor are you deliberately using leftist tactics, nor any other such thing. I am just saying that your reaction to this discussion is identical to the one we see used in virtually every discussion of this type that occurs in the public sphere. It wasn't my intention to say anything bad about your character, but only to try to get you to see that this sort of response is conditioned, deliberately, so that no rational discussion of real events can occur. We have ALL been subject to this conditioning, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US, for decades, and we are all still affected by it to some degree or another to the point where we self-censor.

Now, you may deny that you have been affected by this sort of conditioned response, but you can't deny that your first response to people pointing out patterns of racist misbehavior by black people was to accuse them of bigotry and seeing all black people as a threat. If you review what people actually said, you'll see that NOTHING like that was said - it was a conclusion you jumped to. Even the guy who said he never met a black person who wasn't racist - how do we know that isn't true? Maybe he's only met 5 black people in his life and they were all racist (that is certainly possible in my experience, and I've met a lot more than 5).

The replies on this thread up to our discussion were all of the nature: there are black people targeting white people for crime. I didn't see anything that said "All black people are targeting white people for crime" or "All black people are bad" yet, rather than discuss the state of affairs between the two communities, or discuss the circumstances of the original article, we got drastically derailed by your immediate accusations of broad hatred and bigotry. This is the conditioned response of which I speak. If we can't get past all of the knee-jerk "racism racism racism" stuff, we can't ever discuss any solutions to anything, ever, that involve race, nor can we discuss how to protect ourselves from an obvious pattern of attack, because first, we have to defend ourselves continually against a person, such as yourself, who looks to attack US for looking to identify and address an obvious problem.

The reason I brought up the muslim thing is because I was hoping you'd see the parallel. Most people in the US are bewildered by why a country like Sweden or Germany would import thousands if not millions of these thugs into their countries and simply think that the Euros are stupid or have gone mad. But the truth is, that every time a Swede protests what is happening to his country and people, every time a German takes note of the fact that pretty much all terrorism is islamic, every time some euro decries the fact that euro women are beingn raped left and right, there are throngs of people who scream "racism! bigotry! how can you paint all muslims with the same brush? hatred!" and the discussion devolves into accusations and defense EXACTLY as is occurring here, and the real issue, once again, is ignored while it worsens. I hoped you would see that it is an EXACT PARALLEL, and it might make you stop and think "Hey, maybe my reaction was a little knee-jerk, and maybe some of these people who are complaining about black behavior have had actual bad experiences that justify their concerns."

Here's a thought exercise:
If I say "White people can be racist." you're reaction is...what? Maybe, "Sure, some of them can. That's true."

Now if I say, "Black people can be racist." Is your reaction, "Hey, whoa! No need to tar an entire race of people with the same brush! What's with the hatred?"
117 posted on 07/30/2017 9:58:55 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: simpson96
Badass Woman Escapes Kidnappers Using A Manual Transmission And Nerves Of Steel

What, did she beat them with a manual transmission? I can barely pick one up. She must be very badass.

118 posted on 07/30/2017 10:12:09 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs and RINOs...same thing)
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To: fr_freak
Now, you may deny that you have been affected by this sort of conditioned response, but you can't deny that your first response to people pointing out patterns of racist misbehavior by black people was to accuse them of bigotry and seeing all black people as a threat.

The first person I responded to on this thread said, and I quote: "I have never met a black that wasn’t a racist."

Now, is that a bigoted statement or not?

Additionally, I've seen many, many threads where white posters indulge in virtually masturbatory bigotry, racial stereotyping, and the like. It's like the "two minutes of hate" from 1984.

I know overt bigotry when I see it, and I know disguised bigotry when I see it. And I see plenty of gratuitous indulgence in it in this community, I'm sorry to say.

I'm not in denial of any of the "patterns of racist misbehavior by certain black people", but I categorically reject any attempt to broad brush them, just as I reject attempts from the Black community to broad-brush Whites.

Even the guy who said he never met a black person who wasn't racist - how do we know that isn't true? Maybe he's only met 5 black people in his life and they were all racist

The fact that you'd even attempt to make such a ridiculous and disingenuous argument immediately tells me that you don't have this issue "figured out" as much as you may think you do.

we got drastically derailed by your immediate accusations of broad hatred and bigotry.

That accusation exists more in your mind than in reality. Please document these "immediate accusations of broad hatred and bigotry". You're clearly reading more into my statements than is actually contained in them.

In any event, the fact is that there are voluminous examples of overt bigotry that are displayed in this community. Some are subtle, others are obvious, and still others are literally bragged about and/or reveled in.

If Blacks are to be "converted" to the cause of Liberty, then posting racially antagonistic diatribes is completely counterproductive to that goal. There are right and wrong ways to present the "facts and figures" than some here are so gleefully eager to point out, and when I see prejudice being gratuitously injected into a discussion in such a way as to potentially alienate Blacks which could otherwise be attracted to the "Cause", I'm going to point it out.

Now, you and I may differ on what constitutes bigoted speech. Indeed, it seems apparent that we obviously do. But for you to speak condescendingly like some kind of "wiser" parent is both uncalled for and flat out misguided, IMHO.

My comments were primarily in reaction to the person who said "every black I've met is racist", and you can act as an apologist for that point of view if you like, but it's an indefensible statement, and one which cannot possibly be accurate, except in the mind of someone predisposed to believe it—even in the face of evidence to the contrary.

Again, consider the sincerity of an adult American making that statement. I hold that it's absurd on its face. Virtually every adult in this country who has ever visited "the city" has met enough Black people to render such a statement patently bigoted. It's disingenuous—to say the least—to argue otherwise, and if you choose to "hang your hat" on the theoretical truthfulness of such a statement, then we truly have no common ground on which to converse. It's an extremist stance—which loosely conforms with the sentiments of your profile page—except, however, that I don't see it as being "in the defense of Liberty" by any stretch of the imagination.

Now if I say, "Black people can be racist." Is your reaction, "Hey, whoa! No need to tar an entire race of people with the same brush! What's with the hatred?"

Of course not. If you'll recall, one of my earliest statements was that "there's clearly more racism in the Black community than in the White community". So, again, disingenuous "though exercise".

My impression is that you're guilty of exactly what you've accused me of: reading more into what people say than is really there. It sure seems to me like you've done that in the case of my postings to this thread.

Other than one specific exception, my references to bigotry weren't directed towards any specific individual who has posted on this thread, but rather towards a general attitude that I frequently encounter: self-indulgent racial antagonism, to the point where it could easily alienate Blacks who could otherwise be attracted to the "America First" movement, or whatever you'd like to call it.

As I've noted, on many threads, such self-indulgence becomes veritably orgiastic, and this serves no constructive purpose. And the relevant facts and tendencies regarding black-on-black crime, black-on-white crime, racist black crime, and the like become totally subordinate to the overall gleeful tone that the criticism frequently tends to take on.

I find it very distasteful, and when I think it goes over the line, I'm going to decry it.

Quite frankly, reacting in a knee-jerk fashion is something I criticize more often than I indulge in myself, although of course nobody is perfect. But I will not retract my statement that I believe there is entirely too much racial antagonism that is indulged in during the course of the presentation of the "facts" surrounding crime in the black community, the perceived existence of some kind of formal "race war", and so on.

Sometimes it seems to me like people become "enlightened"—for about five minutes—only to fall into needlessly strident patterns of thought which are often worse than the repressive patterns they have ostensibly escaped.

And, again, to reiterate, your "thought exercise" for me is rather silly when viewed in the context of the statements I've already made about racism being worse in the Black community than in the White community. Knowing that, why did you even pose it?

In any event, I think this conversation has been exhausted for the moment...

119 posted on 07/30/2017 11:09:19 PM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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To: sargon
In any event, I think this conversation has been exhausted for the moment...

Agreed
120 posted on 07/31/2017 12:58:59 AM PDT by fr_freak
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