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GOP senators break with Trump over transgender troop ban
The Hill ^ | 07/26/2017 | John Bowden

Posted on 07/26/2017 10:39:55 AM PDT by GIdget2004

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To: JayGalt
the effect on moral, combat readiness & America’s defense.

Probably because of the deletrious effect on morale, combat readiness and America's defense.

61 posted on 07/26/2017 10:58:51 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: GIdget2004

The usual suspects.


62 posted on 07/26/2017 10:59:15 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: jazusamo
Hey McCain, just retire quietly and STHU. you are not the CinC in spite of what you might think.

He knows that. James Comey is the Commander-In-Chief. [/sarc]

63 posted on 07/26/2017 11:00:12 AM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: DrPretorius
People are excluded from military service for all sorts of reasons ... physical, medical, mental, social. As far as I'm concerned, the military can absolutely decide what constitutes the most battle-ready force.

When we are against the wall, it'll be all hands on deck, so to speak, and it won't matter if you're a 4ft male or a 7ft female, it won't matter if you are 70 years old, have coke-bottle glasses, a limp, a stutter, hypertension, diabetes, and irritable bowel syndrome. If you can hold a gun or stop a bullet protecting someone who can hold a gun, you'll be needed.

Thankfully, we are not at that point. I have no trouble with the military deciding the qualifications for service. (I'm still not clear what special skill was missing from our volunteer male force that necessitated accepting women, but I'm a dinosaur.)

64 posted on 07/26/2017 11:01:08 AM PDT by JustSurrounded
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To: GIdget2004

So the real news is only four Republicans broke with Trump, nowhere near the 2/3 or 67 votes it would take to force through legislation overturning the ban and overriding a veto....


65 posted on 07/26/2017 11:01:34 AM PDT by apillar
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To: theoilpainter
Serious question: does the POTUS have the constitutional authority to make/change/modify rules in this area, or is it a legislative decision? If the Executive does have the authority, it would be reviewable by the Judicial branch, unless there is some rule denying jurisdiction, which I doubt, as prohibitions on judicial review are very rare, to say the least.

The Constitution makes the President Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces. I would assume that means he can set policy without Congressional approval. After all, did Truman get Congressional approval before integrating the military?

66 posted on 07/26/2017 11:02:07 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: ObozoMustGo2012
Shocker... they’re all RINOs.

More like "eunuchs" The female Democrats have more balls than Rinos. These Republicans have no balls.

67 posted on 07/26/2017 11:02:10 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Behind enemy lines)
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To: GIdget2004
"The Department of Defense has already decided to allow currently-serving transgender individuals to stay in the military, and many are serving honorably today. Any American who meets current medical and readiness standards should be allowed to continue serving."

Dear Senator John "Fake War Hero" McCain:

I hope this letter finds you well, and your cancer treatment progressing successfully.

The U.S. Department of Defense is an agency of the executive branch of the U.S. government. As such, it comes under my authority as the President of the United States and the Commander-in-Chief of the U.S. Armed Forces. It does not come under the authority of a corrupt U.S. Senator and failed presidential candidate from Arizona.

Sincerely,

President Donald "Covfefe" Trump

P.S. -- I'll send out my policy directives to the agencies under my authority however I damn well please.

P.P.S. -- Make America Great Again!!

68 posted on 07/26/2017 11:02:23 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: GIdget2004

The commander in chief (President Trump) has the final say in this matter.

If the commander in chief says that there will be no accommodation for transsexuals in the military, then that’s it, end of discussion.

The military follows his orders, and the leftists are SOL.

If the DOD brass have a problem with that, then they can resign their commission, and make a plea to the 60+ million Americans who voted for President Trump.


69 posted on 07/26/2017 11:03:22 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it. MAGA!)
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To: GIdget2004

Shut Up McCain, you did not need to even open your stupid trap about this, but you did...

Remember ‘Songbird’ you were the one stupid enough to fall for a russian prostitute fake story...


70 posted on 07/26/2017 11:04:14 AM PDT by Mr. K (***THERE IS NO CONSEQUENCE OF REPEALING OBAMACARE THAT IS WORSE THAN OBAMACARE ITSELF***)
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To: GIdget2004

Mostly Senators who have nothing to lose.

Mission readiness and budget should be primary over feelings.


71 posted on 07/26/2017 11:04:34 AM PDT by lurk
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To: ObozoMustGo2012

Easy to preach from their ivory tower. In a just world we could wave a wand and make all Senate bathrooms unisex.


72 posted on 07/26/2017 11:04:46 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: GIdget2004; LucyT; azishot; All

Good for the prez! 0b0z0’s in-your-face EOs to the military and the country were appalling. Reversing them is appalling to the commies. Fine with me.

One thing that worries me, some of the GOPe Senators may ‘collude’ to switch to dems and give the Senate to the commies just to get back at Trump.

It only takes three. Two of them were a no-vote for bringing the HC repeal to the floor of the Senate. They would be the media heroes who McPain will defend and give cover.

With schmukie Schumer as Majority Leader, an even ‘softer coup’ would be executed.


73 posted on 07/26/2017 11:05:33 AM PDT by melancholy
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To: msrngtp2002

I absolutely agree with you. And, how many have now, just gone into the military, only for the sake of having some disability time and all of the surgery and hormones paid for by us? It is ridiculous, and a huge insult to all who have honorably served and sacrificed for us.


74 posted on 07/26/2017 11:05:47 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Red Steel

“Some of these Senator are going to get blow back.”

Yeah, Linseed Graham said he wasn’t too worried about that.


75 posted on 07/26/2017 11:05:55 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Wake up and smell the Covfefe.)
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To: msrngtp2002
It would be interesting to know just how much the trans gendered troops have cost the US taxpayer who funds the military. How long are the enlistments for after and before the surgery and treatment? How many have joined to get free benefits for life after they are eventually found to be eligible because of a disability connected in some way to the sex change? This is a mental and medical situation that should not be taken on by the military however many congress critters approve of the expense etc. Of course, when congress members have no need to worry about personal medical expenses for themselves the expense to the taxpayers is of no concern. Pres Trump did good. Bless him.
76 posted on 07/26/2017 11:06:42 AM PDT by mountainfolk
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To: GIdget2004

Thank god Trump did that. I don’t cosign the left’s transgender BS either. That emperor has no clothes.

Guys (humans with a wiener) that want to dress as women are, well, a bit weird, but whatever. I don’t get it, but they don’t bother me much.

But when you do that, and actually think you ARE a woman, that’s irrational. It means the dude is mentally Ill. There’s a diagnosis for it: gender dysphoria. Dude needs serious mental help.

Either way, he/she/it doesn’t belong in the military, period. It’s disruptive as hell, and not conducive to cohesion or unity during times of great stress, like war. And yeah, I’m ex military.

Kick them all out, let the chips fall where they may.


77 posted on 07/26/2017 11:07:21 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Drone Soros and sons!!!)
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To: GIdget2004
You WILL
78 posted on 07/26/2017 11:07:35 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: PCPOET7
most who claim to be transgendered only do hormone treatment and some never do anything but make the claim..

Where did you come up with that stat? What about those who have gone thru the entire surgical process?

I have no problem with a guy that feels he should be a she.

I have a problem with people with mental illnesses being in the military.

but if they want to live as anything other then a guy and do any of the medical treatments they are in the wrong place.

I assume by the wrong place, you mean the military. I could care less what they do in other walks of life. But that is not the issue or subject of this thread.

79 posted on 07/26/2017 11:07:38 AM PDT by kabar
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To: GIdget2004

McCain, chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, ripped the call and said that Trump shouldn’t be making policy announcements via tweet.

Sorry, hero-boy... it isn’t up to you.


80 posted on 07/26/2017 11:07:39 AM PDT by Pravious
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