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1 posted on 07/03/2017 8:41:08 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Interesting take on what is going on in Syria.


2 posted on 07/03/2017 8:43:58 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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This is Prophetic IMHO.
He’s got a short window of opportunity to turn this around with very little prospect of certainty.

Isaiah 17:1-14 & specifically the evil thought of Gog in Ezekiel 38.


3 posted on 07/03/2017 8:44:08 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Americans are modern day Amorites ripe for destruction)
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What disaster in Ukraine?


5 posted on 07/03/2017 8:54:54 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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Hey Mark,

You don’t drown in Syria.

You get bogged down, sunk, buried, stuck or any other verb commonly associated with sand.

You don’t drown in the desert.


6 posted on 07/03/2017 8:59:38 AM PDT by Eddie01 (I come from the water. That weren't no easy thing.)
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I'd like to be a fly on the wall when Trump meets with Putin. I just imagine that a reversal of the “i will have more flexibility after the election” comment the Obola made will be on the table.
7 posted on 07/03/2017 9:01:45 AM PDT by vette6387
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Wow, I had no idea Russia’s GDP had collapsed so badly but I double-checked the article’s figures and they’re true. This is a disaster for Putin.


8 posted on 07/03/2017 9:02:49 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("In a Time of Universal Deceit Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act" - George Orwell)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Syria is Russia’s Vietnam?


11 posted on 07/03/2017 9:08:59 AM PDT by the_daug
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This is just a Neocon puff piece of total BS intended to keep the faithful Neocon crowd from losing confidence. Russia spends very little more on what it has in Syria than it would spend on training and upkeep for those same forces anyway since a large portion of their support costs are paid by Syria and Iran.

When they've been there fifteen years and are going a trillion dollars a years in debt to maintain their bases and wars around the world, then I'll listen to this sort of fantasy.

14 posted on 07/03/2017 9:16:22 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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"the Kremlin’s gamble to use the conflict in Syria to normalize relations with the West after the disaster in Ukraine is not paying off"

Normalize relations with the west?

I always thought the Russian involvement in Syria was an attempt to fill a middle east power vacuum...a vacuum formed in large part by Barry O...if for no other reason to prevent the entire region from becoming a jihadi training camp (remember the Russians have their own share of terrorism problems in their south).

What's changed is the vacuum is no longer there. Trump is using US force in the region (at his electoral peril as Michael Savage and others are apoplectic), and Putin is no longer guaranteed the 'easy payoff' of being the top dog in the region after a few short years of special ops warfare, essentially co-opting anything good that came out of our nation's decade of wars there.

Short version - Barry aint around no more, Putin doesn't always get what he wants anymore.

BTW, any sane person would know that, of the two candidates for president, Putin would prefer HRC, which makes this collusion talk nonsense.

15 posted on 07/03/2017 9:16:37 AM PDT by lacrew
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Not sure I agree Putin has no options. There are always options, as distasteful as they may seem:

Proffer a deal with Assad and Trump that guarantees a reformed Syrian government (new Constitution), the eradication of ISIS, safe-zones for refugees, and amnesty for anti-Assad fighters into the Syrian military. Everyone wins, except ISIS and Iran.

If Assad balks, team up with the US to eradicate ISIS- grab whatever victory you can at this point, then pull out.

16 posted on 07/03/2017 9:18:06 AM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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Way overstated. It will not destroy Russia, though it may cause some hiccups for Putin.


17 posted on 07/03/2017 9:18:52 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/15/west-ignored-russian-offer-in-2012-to-have-syrias-assad-step-aside


18 posted on 07/03/2017 9:22:37 AM PDT by Malcolm Reynolds
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If Trump out foxes the Russians in the Middle East, he’ll get no more credit than Reagan did for bringing down the Berlin wall. But then, Reagan wasn’t in it for the glory.


20 posted on 07/03/2017 9:24:03 AM PDT by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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Russia has been with Syria for decades. Syria is a strategic asset for Russia as between critical location flanking Turkey etc, seaports, airports, and yes those energy supply routes. i doubt Russia is even thinking about abandoning Syria, nor does Russia have, or need, the massive ground troops there that cost USA so much in Vietnam Nam. . I think this article is pretty much wrong


22 posted on 07/03/2017 9:29:16 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicans are not born, they're excreted." -- Marcus Tillius Cicero)
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This is neotard BS. Russia is doing just fine.


24 posted on 07/03/2017 9:33:20 AM PDT by ganeemead
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Seriously.... Putin in “peril”. Men like him don’t have “peril”...they “peril” other people.

1st- If this is being put out with “lack of fear of dying” then... it’s being allowed by Putin.

2nd- Putin, I believe, wants to make Russia the power broker in the area from Scandinavia to the Aleutians. This is to include Europe, the Mideast, and other areas of interests that compete with capitalism. In other words he wants to restore Russia to a world power. He has the nukes, the population and the willingness to kill anybody that gets in his way.

3rd- He will choke Europe with muslims to destabilize the entire area and control the energy that they need to survive. He can do this by making the mideast an unstable mess allowing Russian energy exports or those that he allows to flow to Europe.

4th- I read somewhere a profile of Putin that stated in order to insure conflict with him, just threaten or try to corner him. In other words when Obama shoved the gay Olympics in his face, gave him a red line in Syria or tried to get the world to condemn him for the Ukraine..... he says f#@k you and then does it anyway or retaliates anyway.

Everyone (not educated FReepers) forgets that Russian lost 30 MILLION civilians in WWII. .... 30 MILLION. Let that sink into your heads and think if our grandparents generation had lost 30 million relatives, had New York, Washington DC and most of the East cost destroyed by an invading army..... how would we be?

Putin is going nowhere. His main concern is China and the US. He needs to make sure that a conflict puts his two rivals at odds and he can play one against the other. He’s playing chess....... etc.


28 posted on 07/03/2017 9:48:07 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (2 Timothy 4:7 deo duce ferro comitante)
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“I would say that it is much worse, in fact, a potentially fatal, disaster for Putin and Russia”

The media never learns. They predicted the same doom and gloom for Trump (how many timesa now?) and have been wrong.

Why they think they’re right on this utterly eludes me.


29 posted on 07/03/2017 9:48:27 AM PDT by MeganC (Democrat by birth, Republican by default, conservative by principle.)
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It’s CHINA that “...wants control in Iraq and Syria so as to clear the way for a trans-Iraq-trans-Syria path from Iran to the Mediterranean Sea.” for the western terminus of their One Belt, One Road plan.
Russia would gain leverage with China if it can provide that. Ditto for Iran.
Turkey would rather China’s road go through Turkey.

And, of course, we and everyone else is jockeying for a piece of the action.


30 posted on 07/03/2017 9:50:26 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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Mark Langfan doesn’t have clue.

Putin now has four naval bases in Syria.

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/how-russia-turning-syria-major-naval-base-nuclear-warships-19813


31 posted on 07/03/2017 9:59:49 AM PDT by MarvinStinson
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I am not sure that I agree with this totally. Putin has the only group that can hold the country. There are two strong groups who can be trusted. Assad and the Kurds. But we can’t make a deal with either. Assad has the Russians and Iran. The Turks hate the Kurds and are making sure we, and NATO can’t make a deal with them. So we have to rely on “good rebels”. And good rebels are unreliable. ISIS are Sunnis. And we have Sunni friends. Shiites can fight ISIS but they hate us and our friends. So Russia’s position is better in that we don’t have anything bug guns and money. And that just isn’t enough. We can fight ISIS, in which case Assad or Iran wins. Or we can fight Assad in which case Iran or ISIS wins. There is no case in which America wins.


32 posted on 07/03/2017 10:01:02 AM PDT by poinq
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