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How Illinois became America's most messed-up state
CNN- Money ^ | 06/29/2017 | Matt Egan

Posted on 06/29/2017 2:57:20 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd

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To: Freedom56v2

Downstate IL is conservative. But they keep getting outvoted by the morons in Chicago.

That’s why it was one of only two Midwest states that went for Hillary last year.

Chicago has ambiance and good food but not much else to commend it.


61 posted on 06/29/2017 5:20:18 PM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: Responsibility2nd

I love it when stuff specific to a state or city gets posted and everybody from somewhere else offers an opinion .


62 posted on 06/29/2017 5:22:52 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslinl)
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To: jazminerose
It’s the weather. Californians spend more time outdoors, goofing off and thus have less time to wreck the state. They do eventually get it done however.

LOL!
You are probably right. The intent is in place, however the Dems are just too distracted in fighting too many different causes (all with the same aim to destroy the Country, though).

It is a shame. California used to be a fairly conservative State. And although there have been quite a few liberal transplants (Barbara Boxer came from New York, and Pelosi from Baltimore), and the Schools and Media have done their utmost to brainwash the next Generation - I still think the illegal alien vote has led to the continual leftward tilt in the State.

63 posted on 06/29/2017 5:26:30 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Notice they didn’t announce this until their favorite son was out of office in halfway around the world.


64 posted on 06/29/2017 5:29:23 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Behind the Blue Wall
Re: 60

I agree. Ahnold actually started is term with good intents - but after all of the fiscally conservative propositions that he sponsored got squashed at the ballot box - he jump on the leftist bandwagon.
I agree that California is probably still intrinsically conservative - but with the growth of the Government unions and illegal alien influx - the State is solidly in the hands of the leftists. It will probably take a complete collapse (which won't be fun for anyone) before the State can start to delouse itself.

65 posted on 06/29/2017 5:30:28 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: SkyDancer
"They even tax grandparents social security.."

False!
https://www.sapling.com/11404900/illinois-tax-retirement-income

But, I am having a real estate guy over to put up the house for sale. Why? Because idiots like this guy at the Chicago Tribune recommends taxing me.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/columnists/ct-harris-tax-retirement-income-0515-biz-20150515-column.html

66 posted on 06/29/2017 5:34:25 PM PDT by Chgogal (I will NOT submit, therefore, Jihadists hate me.)
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To: AlaskaErik

Part of the reason I cancelled my annual trip to NC to see my daughter was having to drive through Chicago. You could go through Upper Michigan lol


67 posted on 06/29/2017 5:35:24 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Man-made global liberalism is killing the planet)
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To: Freedumb
You can take a car ferry from the Milwaukee area to Muskegon, Michigan and then south from there to Indiana.

I was actually looking at ferries. It seems the southern one doesn't take vehicles over 18 feet long. My pickup is 19' 1".

68 posted on 06/29/2017 5:35:26 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: SkyDancer
From the first link on my post to you:

Social Security

Social Security is a retirement income safety net established and maintained by the U.S. government. These benefits, which are reported on line 20b of your 1040 or 14b of your 1040A, are not taxed. The exemption extends to railroad retirement benefits as well.

69 posted on 06/29/2017 5:39:57 PM PDT by Chgogal (I will NOT submit, therefore, Jihadists hate me.)
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To: willk
"Rather than dealing with the problem, Illinois continued to reward the state's powerful unions with more generous benefits."

By "dealing w/ the problem", do they mean that the politicians shouldn't have taken all those campaign contributions? Or permit kick-backs? Or.....

70 posted on 06/29/2017 5:40:02 PM PDT by ex91B10
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To: Graybeard58
I still pay Illinois taxes on my dividend/inters income. : (
71 posted on 06/29/2017 5:41:42 PM PDT by Chgogal (I will NOT submit, therefore, Jihadists hate me.)
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To: DaveA37

MADIGAN that’s what name comes to my mind.


72 posted on 06/29/2017 5:48:24 PM PDT by hsmomx3
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To: Chgogal

Just going what http://finance.zacks.com/pensions-taxable-illinois-7441.html says.


73 posted on 06/29/2017 5:49:52 PM PDT by SkyDancer (You know they invented wheelbarrows to teach FAA inspectors to walk on their hind legs.)
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To: Chgogal

Again:http://finance.zacks.com/pensions-taxable-illinois-7441.html; so who is right? You or they?


74 posted on 06/29/2017 5:50:36 PM PDT by SkyDancer (You know they invented wheelbarrows to teach FAA inspectors to walk on their hind legs.)
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To: BBell

can’t blame the origins on Chicago. RINO Gov Jim Edgar is solely to blame. Against the analysis of the Fab5 State Senators (Fitzgerald, Rauschenberger, Lauzen, O’Malley, and the one who lost his courage) Jim Edgar gave the Public employee unions everything they wanted in exchange for political support from the unions.

Under Gov Edgar and Gov George Ryan, both RINOs IL spent big and promised big for the future. More than half of Republican legislators went along with their governor.


75 posted on 06/29/2017 6:02:37 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: Graybeard58

I think it is only fed, state and local govt employees pensions are exempt, The rest are fu..? er I mean screwed.


76 posted on 06/29/2017 6:03:03 PM PDT by Bonemaker
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To: Responsibility2nd

I live in Cal and I object to being number 2.


77 posted on 06/29/2017 6:03:56 PM PDT by morphing libertarian (Hillary Clinton must be imprisoned.)
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To: Bonemaker

My pension is neither fed, state nor local, it is a private pension and is exempt.


78 posted on 06/29/2017 6:08:31 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (The Lord hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.)
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To: Graybeard58

I stand corrected.


79 posted on 06/29/2017 6:12:14 PM PDT by Bonemaker
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To: Palio di Siena

You got the property taxes right..11 grand here when for the same thing in AZ it would be 6-7.


80 posted on 06/29/2017 6:15:23 PM PDT by Bonemaker
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