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LaVoy Finicum shooting: Indictment of agent "devastating" for FBI (OREGON STANDOFF)
OregonLive ^ | 6/28/2017 | Maxine Bernstein

Posted on 06/28/2017 9:29:06 PM PDT by Nextrush

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To: Hostage
" What is in dispute was whether he was reaching in to pull his gun or was he reeling around from being shot?"

Maybe he was reeling around because he'd heard those two rounds hit his truck.

41 posted on 06/28/2017 11:03:56 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Ray76

The gun is in the inside left pocket of his coat with the grip facing toward his posterior. If he was going to cross draw the grip would be facing forward, toward his anterior.

Was the gun planted?


42 posted on 06/28/2017 11:04:09 PM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: Hostage
"This was McCabe carrying out a revenge killing for Hillary and Reid."

Like he carried out his revenge on General Michael Flynn.

43 posted on 06/28/2017 11:06:30 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Nextrush

BACKGROUND INFORMATION
American Standoff Documentary Part 1~ Bundy Hammonds LaVoy Finicum! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeS0rgjspTU

American Standoff Documentary Part 2~ Bundy Hammonds LaVoy Finicum! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UANzVdoZBds


44 posted on 06/28/2017 11:08:18 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: Nextrush
The indictment of W. Joseph Astarita, 40, of New York casts a shadow on the highly trained team......

Finally, a name. Especially, thanks for the surname.

45 posted on 06/28/2017 11:09:25 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: mass55th

Yes, he had teenage kids in the truck and he would be expected to turn to see if they were Ok.

But it’s on an audio-video smartphone recording that he defied the FBI guys and told them if they were there to shoot him, then go ahead and shoot.

Note that Trump was interviewed about this a few days after and I posted a thread about it. In the interview, Candidate Trump said he would insist first that the Rule of Law be followed but that he could have solved to whole ordeal with a short simple phone call.

He also remarked that the whole situation was in the context of a land grab, that farmers and ranchers had grievances with the BLM. Donald was magnificent in that interview and showed clearly that as President this kind of situation would never have happened.


46 posted on 06/28/2017 11:19:31 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: mass55th

McCabe is a Dirty Cop.

He was never regular FBI. He was always JTTF FBI with an attitude. He railroaded innocent people, created terrorism suspicions where terrorism did not exist, and he did it all for promotions.

He was made Deputy Director in January 2016. He was brought in to carry out a mission to squelch the FBI probes into Hillary’s emails.

Now he’s Acting FBI Director. What worries people is he might receive blanket immunity from Rosenstein via Mueller.

People should be calmed by the fact that the President has outstanding attorneys serving as his White House counsels.


47 posted on 06/28/2017 11:25:02 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Nextrush; null and void

[ The indictment of W. Joseph Astarita, 40, of New York casts a shadow on the highly trained team...... ]

Uh oh.....Keep us up to date on this one.


48 posted on 06/28/2017 11:26:23 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Hebrews 13:2 Do not forget to entertain strangers, for ... some have unwittingly entertained angels)
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To: Nextrush
"..casts a shadow on the highly trained team...... "

You mean the highly trained team THAT MISSES?

Sounds to me like the FBI's Astarita missed on purpose, knowing the OST would deliver the fatal shots.

49 posted on 06/29/2017 12:02:22 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Feminism DESTROYED females)
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To: Fungi

When will igt be ok to just come out and call Sessions a RINO? I’ve been saying it all along hoping I was proved wrong.


50 posted on 06/29/2017 12:06:09 AM PDT by Blue Highway (Q)
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To: Nextrush

[[ LaVoy Finicum shooting: Indictment of agent “devastating” for FBI (OREGON STANDOFF)]]

Murder of Lavoy Finnicum DEVASTATING for LAVOY FINNICUM and Family!


51 posted on 06/29/2017 12:29:26 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Nextrush

[[Astarita will remain out of custody pending trial.]]

Meanwhile the body of Lavoy Finnicum remains IN the custody of his coffin


52 posted on 06/29/2017 12:31:19 AM PDT by Bob434
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[[Actually, there will NEVER be any justice for LeVoy.]]

Nor for the others i n the vehicle that the agents tried to assassinate in cold blood- apparently attempted murder is not a crime if one doing the murdering is an agent of the government

Lavoy and family, and company in the vehicle with him will never receive the justice they deserve- never-


53 posted on 06/29/2017 12:36:03 AM PDT by Bob434
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The FBI may offer them the easy way out too. No charges if they resign.

I thought the FBI wasn't supposed to make such decisions.

54 posted on 06/29/2017 12:47:40 AM PDT by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: Nextrush

I was a career military officer.

This was what we called an "Ambush."

And it unfolded as a Murder/Ambush.

55 posted on 06/29/2017 2:48:09 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: Hostage

Thanks for the summary. I understand this incident much better now.


56 posted on 06/29/2017 3:03:30 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Nextrush
Flashback: Bundy ranch shooting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9MvxwrsOZc
57 posted on 06/29/2017 3:18:35 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: vette6387

HRT? Lon Horiuchi? Just tip of the iceberg.

It is TIME to DownSize DC! Close entire Rogue/Unconstitutional Departments including their SWAT Teams.

Wonder, since it’s inception, how many “hostages’ have the HRT actually saved?

How many innocent people have been killed by them?


58 posted on 06/29/2017 3:21:27 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Hostage
Now he’s Acting FBI Director. What worries people is he might receive blanket immunity from Rosenstein via Mueller.

Rosenstein, McCabe, and Mueller all need to be fired!

And let the media and the Democrats caterwaul all day and all night.

59 posted on 06/29/2017 3:36:09 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: ptsal

Yup. Sara Carter is the journalistic pitbull that now has a mouthful of McCabe with a snapping turtle grip while his blood is flowing. McCabe is going down but remember, Trump’s MO is to let those who are rotten expose themselves and do themselves in. Why give them the opportunity to lawyer up and then to have those lawyers delay and obfuscate their client for months and years to make sure nothing is done about the rest of the apples that were in contact with it. Furthermore, when that is done, the issue disappears from public view.

Longball, longball, longball. Set the drag really loose and let them show the entire world they are hooked. Eventually the barracuda will notice the thrashing and all of a sudden, the line goes dead, and when reeled in the only thing left is the head, and very little of it.


60 posted on 06/29/2017 3:56:48 AM PDT by mazda77
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