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Supreme ruling coming on forcing Christians to betray faith (Gay wedding cakes)
World Net Daily ^ | Bob Unruh

Posted on 06/26/2017 10:16:02 AM PDT by Texas Fossil

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To: pjd
Individualism is America's tragic flaw: it is what made us great, but will eventually lead to our ruin.

It would be nice if we could constrain individualism as classical liberals and libertarians believe we can, but that is a utopian belief.

We can see where a focus on individualism has led to relativism and subjectivism.

Yes, communitarian/authoritarian beliefs have their own downsides, but individualism is not without its faults especially if taken to the extreme, e.g. gender fluidity, gay marriage, abortion, mass migration, crony capitalism via lobbying, etc.

21 posted on 06/26/2017 5:38:26 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Steve_Seattle

I read a review / analysis of the book.

It is too Malthusian for me.

But thanks. I’m from rural country stock. We still have Christian faithful around here.

Backwater? Possibly. But I can live with it.

I could even live without TV and not actually miss it. (not my wife, smile)


22 posted on 06/26/2017 6:19:59 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: DuncanWaring

Yes, indeed.

I see no way to twist the reading of the Constitution on this subject. Although the courts have labored mightily to do just that.


23 posted on 06/26/2017 6:22:45 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Brian Griffin

Yes, it’s clear.

But clearly twisted by nonsense from the Courts.


24 posted on 06/26/2017 6:24:25 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

Will we have a new conservative justice by the fall, Ms. Ginsburg?


25 posted on 06/26/2017 6:26:02 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: fwdude

I think it will.

It is way overdue.


26 posted on 06/26/2017 6:26:22 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Uncle Sam 911

“Gorsuch II” Indeed. We desperately need that.


27 posted on 06/26/2017 6:27:08 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Amendment10

I believe and have stated that I think the time is long overdue when a complete examination of the size and nature of the Federal Courts below the Constitutionally established Supreme Court, should be done. And the scale of federal laws pertaining to things that the Federal Government is not authorized by the constitution be determined and should be returned to the state courts.

There are far too many federal laws and unresponsive federal courts. (Prime example? The entire 9th Circus)

It is also TIME to DownSize DC! Close Entire Rogue/Unconstitutional Departments, including their SWAT Teams.

Time to declare open season on the Bureaucrap. I believe that Donald Trump is the correct man to do this job.


28 posted on 06/26/2017 6:40:36 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Uncle Sam 911

Praying that also.


29 posted on 06/26/2017 6:41:58 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: DuncanWaring

Yes. We wait.


30 posted on 06/26/2017 6:43:46 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: pjd

A Classic Liberal was an anti-Statist Anti-Monarchist.

A Modern Liberal is a Marxist Statist.

180 degree phase shift since the founders lived.


31 posted on 06/26/2017 6:46:28 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Salvation

Well, we should drag our feet in reconciling this case with that change in mind.


32 posted on 06/26/2017 6:48:02 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Steve_Seattle

Did not make it up. I was looking at the pre-ratification draft. My goof.It should have made it in because as it reads, Congress is prohibited, but states, counties, municipalities are not.


33 posted on 06/26/2017 8:27:27 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: Texas Fossil

A ruling for the bakers would pull the teeth right out of the gay marriage ruling. Anyone could claim a religious objection and not have to preside or work with a homosexual marriage. We can only hope the ruling goes that way. It will take a Kennedy retirement and Gorsuch-like replacement to have any hope of success.


34 posted on 06/27/2017 10:41:35 AM PDT by Uncle Sam 911
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To: Uncle Sam 911

May it be so.


35 posted on 06/27/2017 11:42:40 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil
I thought the 13th amendment already abolished involuntary servitude.

How is forcing someone to bake a cake in a kitchen against their wishes any different than forcing someone to pick cotton in a field against their wishes?

-PJ

36 posted on 06/27/2017 11:46:26 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Legislation by Judicial fiat.

Liberal (ComDem) Judges twisting the law past all bounds. Especially the Federal Judges.


37 posted on 06/27/2017 11:53:25 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil
One would think that a market for gay-themed bakeries would be a booming business.

The Supreme Court should recognize that the 13th amendment means you don't destroy someone for not expanding into a market they don't wish to serve (baking the cake), you encourage others to enter a ripe market with a business that caters to an under-served population.

-PJ

38 posted on 06/27/2017 12:00:07 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

The market exists (not much here), it’s fine if someone else wants to serve it. But that provider should beware, these “customers” like to sue for damages that were imagined not real.


39 posted on 06/27/2017 12:02:05 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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