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Trump’s reversal allowing amnesty for Dreamers enrages conservative base
The Washington Times ^ | June 8, 2017 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 06/12/2017 6:42:20 AM PDT by 4Runner

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To: 4Runner

I am a Trump fan but this is back door amnesty.


41 posted on 06/12/2017 7:53:03 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: dynoman

The primary sources is the lack of the promised EO day one that would have overturned DACA.

Mr. President,

SIGN THE DAMN EO YOU PROMISED US!


42 posted on 06/12/2017 7:56:19 AM PDT by Jarhead9297
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To: Steamburg

Post 42 it’s simple


43 posted on 06/12/2017 7:59:12 AM PDT by Jarhead9297
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To: Freee-dame
That is what he said, he also said that he wants the ‘bad hombre’s’ out of here first, the killers, rapists, and drug dealers, then those living off our country who won't work, and then he would decide about the ‘dreamers’...he said it was a going to be a tough decision on that one...

So far, immigration has stopped, the consensus says that President Trump is at 67% of stopping immigration, a lot of the illegal aliens are not taking welfare or food stamps for fear they would get caught...

They have hired more ‘immigration’ lawyers to get the people out of our country faster, a lot of the Judges especially those in California and other liberal States are upset because ICE picks up the illegal aliens at the Court House Doors...to bad, they don't belong here...

And another thing, this article was written by Washington Times...

44 posted on 06/12/2017 8:05:40 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 ( "The Force Awakens!!!"...Trump and Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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To: momincombatboots

Post a quote.


45 posted on 06/12/2017 8:12:55 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: 4Runner

NeverTrumpers gotta neverTrump.

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/USCIS/Resources/Reports%20and%20Studies/Immigration%20Forms%20Data/All%20Form%20Types/DACA/daca_performancedata_fy2017_qtr2.pdf

Actually data. New applications down 1/3 from previous quarter and down nearly 1/2 of BHO’s average previous year. That is the real takeaway.
Fewer new=less renewals later.

Also a substantial amount of those approvals were in the pipe compliments of BHO.


46 posted on 06/12/2017 8:15:21 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: sickoflibs

The article refers to a distinct decision trump made, where us a primary source record of the decision?


47 posted on 06/12/2017 8:16:02 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: LS

“Be VERY, VERY careful about these reports.”

HEAR HEAR!!


48 posted on 06/12/2017 8:18:39 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: Jarhead9297

Post a primary source, in context, quote of Trump saying that.


49 posted on 06/12/2017 8:19:18 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Blue Turtle
more judges pushing cases forward

Maybe you missed that article last week claiming it would be 2022 before these people get before a judge.

People that think Trump can ignore the promises on immigration and get re-elected are just foolish.

Kelly is absolutely not helping, neither is Tillerson with his comments.

50 posted on 06/12/2017 8:20:01 AM PDT by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: HarleyLady27

Good summary.
I know it’s Huff`n Puff but (if they aren’t lying) a good history of what President Trump has said on the matter:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-and-daca-a-confusing-history_us_58b9960be4b0fa65b844b24a

It’s simple issue as a legal matter but tougher as a political matter. The `rats and GOP-e are fighting him tooth-and-nail.
But even as a legal matter we rejected English notions of punishing children of traitors so that their inheritance escheated to the crown. ARTICLE III, SECTION 3, CLAUSE 2 sets forth “no attainder of treason shall work corruption of blood, or forfeiture, except during the life of the person attainted.”

The fact remains that they are here illegally. President Trump knows what he’s doing. As you say, as long as he’s booting the adult criminals I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, for now, on the cowbird chicks brought here.
The DACAs aren’t going anywhere for now and we know who they are, so don’t buy any green bananas kiddos.


51 posted on 06/12/2017 8:23:21 AM PDT by tumblindice ("Fight for your country." Hector)
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To: sickoflibs; dynoman; 4Runner; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; BillyBoy; Impy; ...

Trump needs to send Ivanka (who has been brainwashed by her liberal husband, Kushner) home. These two are causing nothing but trouble. All they do is encourage the “unintelligent D.C. swamp-dwellers” to try to drive a wedge between Trump and his daughter.


52 posted on 06/12/2017 8:25:11 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: txrefugee
and he’d better stick to that campaign promise or he’s Texas toast.

A lot of Freepers apparently don't agree judging by the defensive posts here. He can lead this country back to conservative majority or doom us to a permanent democratic majority party on this issue alone. Immigration is not just an issue it is the only issue.

53 posted on 06/12/2017 8:28:06 AM PDT by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: dynoman

SMDH....
1) President Trump states he will over turn DACA vis a vi EO
2) President Trump stumps STRONGLY against DACA put in place unconstitutionally through EO by Obambi
3) President Trump softens his stance on DACA after hearing their “sad stories”
4) President Trump has signed NUMEROUS EOs overturning Obamabi EOs (excellent)
5) President Trump has NOT commissioned a WH attorney to write up the EO that overturns DACA AS PROMISED
6) Of the numerous EO that have crossed his desk and he has happily signed and lauded why is it this one did not make it to the top of the stack and signed in DAY ONE?

Because he does not (as of now) wish to overturn DACA while thousands under the program freely continue to flow in.

You can either be a cheerleader or hold those we vote for to their words. In this instance I have chosen the latter while others feel it necessary and shield their eyes pretending to not see anything while confusing the underlying subject with semantics


54 posted on 06/12/2017 8:28:20 AM PDT by Jarhead9297
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To: LS
1) Fake news/left have FAILED to stop DT with vulgarity, marches, neverTrump shadow government, investigations, and elections.

I am pretty sure if he was deporting these people we would know about it from the MSM.

55 posted on 06/12/2017 8:30:55 AM PDT by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: SanchoP

“This is the third time this crap has been posted.”

According to one little irate NeverTrump retard, they swear to Christ they searched and could not find any instance of this 4 day old article being posted.


56 posted on 06/12/2017 8:31:27 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: LS

Trump has obstructionism all around him. He can’t fight every issue right now. First he is trying to deport the felons. To do that he will have to fight all the sanctuary cities and police departments that won’t cooperate.

He is now cutting federal funding of food stamps which has resulted in states imposing work requirements. Tens of thousands of illegals will be dropped from the rolls. He is also trying to stop other ‘welfare’ programs too. That will send many illegals - along with their dreaming children - back to Mexico.

Don’t worry, many of those dreamers will be gone as the free money, free food, free medical, and free housing benefits dry up for the illegals.


57 posted on 06/12/2017 8:37:19 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Jarhead9297
You can either be a cheerleader or hold those we vote for to their words. In this instance I have chosen the latter while others feel it necessary and shield their eyes pretending to not see anything while confusing the underlying subject with semantics

Quelle vertueux.

58 posted on 06/12/2017 8:38:01 AM PDT by Stentor
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To: moehoward
NeverTrumpers gotta neverTrump.

People that point out that Trump is not keeping his word on immigration are getting tired of being labeled #NeverTrumpers by the sycophants that populate these immigration threads.

59 posted on 06/12/2017 8:38:54 AM PDT by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: dynoman
Post a primary source, in context, quote of Trump saying that.

You miss the election debates?

60 posted on 06/12/2017 8:39:45 AM PDT by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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