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How Bill Clinton Brought Back the 1911 Pistol
pjmedia.com ^ | 6/6/2017 | Tom Knighton

Posted on 06/07/2017 8:17:41 AM PDT by rktman

Gun control laws are pointless, and here's all you need to know about that: From the early 1990s until 2016, guns in circulation in the U.S. just about doubled, while violent crime was just about cut in half.

Worse (for the gun grabbers), gun control laws often lead to outcomes the gun grabbers never intended:

In that post AWB [the Bill Clinton-era "Assault Weapon Ban"] world, you could still buy a GLOCK or a Beretta, but why would you? Unless you had a source of pre-ban magazines you felt screwed and cheated. Why carry a full size pistol that could hold 15 to 17 rounds of 9x19mm when by law you were limited to 10 rounds max?

All of a sudden the 1911 became popular again. It was a full size pistol that all of a sudden was “slim” and carried a cartridge with more “knock down” power. Eight rounds of .45 didn’t look bad compared to 10 rounds of 9×19. In that post-1994 market, everyone and their brother began cranking out 1911s.

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BOOM! So to speak. ;-)
1 posted on 06/07/2017 8:17:42 AM PDT by rktman
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The magazine ban probably did help, small low capacity pistols along with revolvers and large autos which had single stack mags.

Having said that, the 1911 was stilld doing fine on it’s merits well before the ban. I would guess the 1911 is probably losing a little ground to more modern high capacity handguns but it is still a first class fighting gun.


2 posted on 06/07/2017 8:23:20 AM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: rktman

I’m often awed that liberals seem to have no concept of math.


3 posted on 06/07/2017 8:24:54 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Every nation has the government it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: rktman

Every attempt to limit guns by limiting specifications just creates demand for adaptive implementations. 10 round limit? Go figure - sudden marketing of large caliber & subcompact sizes.


4 posted on 06/07/2017 8:25:00 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: rktman

My winter carry gun is a Para-Ordanace P12 .45......based on the 1911...

Summer carry is a subcompact single stack 9mm....way lighter and smaller...easier with summer clothes for concealed carry....


5 posted on 06/07/2017 8:27:54 AM PDT by nevergore (I have a terrible rash on my covfefe....)
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To: rktman

The .45ACP. Specifically designed back then to stop moslem Juramentados when the .38 (.361 diameter)long Colt would not.
Now we use a 9MM (.351 dia) and call it progress.


6 posted on 06/07/2017 8:30:19 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: ctdonath2

“Every attempt to limit guns by limiting specifications just creates demand for adaptive implementations. 10 round limit? Go figure - sudden marketing of large caliber & subcompact sizes.”


Which is why, in the end, they will attempt to ban ALL guns, of whatever size and/or caliber and/or type of action. It is their end game.

Unfortunately for them, the gun culture is growing, and there are now about 400 million guns in civilian hands. Every year, as people die or just grow old and gift their guns to kids or grandkids, more guns that were “on paper” suddenly cease to exist so far as the BATFE is concerned. Oh, they may suspect that someone’s kid has the gun, but they can’t PROVE it. It is frankly impossible to ban guns from the hands of the American public, and growing more impossible on literally a daily basis.

Oh, and if the Hearing Protection Act passes this year, within 5 years there will be at least 10-20 million suppressors out there...which will really get the gun-banning snowflakes’ panties in a wad.


7 posted on 06/07/2017 8:32:41 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Lib speak for progress when you actually move backwards. LOL!


8 posted on 06/07/2017 8:32:46 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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Clinton also made the AR-15 platform the most popular sporting rifle inAmerica. People hurried and bought them prior to the ban, discovered they were great fun to shoot, let their friends shoot them, and that was that.


9 posted on 06/07/2017 8:33:25 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Sooth2222
I’m often awed that liberals seem to have no concept of math.

The concept that gives them problems is the existence of other people who make independent decisions in their own interest.

10 posted on 06/07/2017 8:33:59 AM PDT by thulldud
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To: rktman

The risk of my state banning weapons, but with a grandfather clause, led me to buy everything I might someday want or that my children might want. I also got backups in case the state didn’t include a grandfather clause, for more flexibility on whether to comply with a full ban. I literally own four times as many guns as I would have if I trusted America’s enemies on the left to respect our God-given right to keep and bear arms. Unintended consequences are a good thing - I love my revolvers!


11 posted on 06/07/2017 8:34:50 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I am a good person and do not wish to be hit by ANY caliber bullets if it can be avoided! :-)

12 posted on 06/07/2017 8:34:58 AM PDT by Blue Jays ( Rock hard ~ Ride free)
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To: Blue Jays

Then behave. LOL!


13 posted on 06/07/2017 8:37:34 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I predict the US Military will go back to using .308 and .45 ammo. Bet on it.


14 posted on 06/07/2017 8:38:17 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: yarddog

Yes it was. I bought a Model 70 Colt combat commander made in stainless steel in the late 70’s. That pistol was throated out, had 4 lbs. of trigger pull, had night sights plus I changed grips. I had a friend who was darn good working on 45’s. He made that 45 unbelievably accurate. He made a number of special rounds.


15 posted on 06/07/2017 8:43:41 AM PDT by Lumper20
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To: Pollster1

Won’t your grandchildren feel slighted?


16 posted on 06/07/2017 8:44:52 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

>>Now we use a 9MM (.351 dia) and call it progress.

Yes, we do.

.38 LC 125 gr. 772 ft/sec. 165 Ft-lbs x 6 rounds typically
9mm 124 gr. 1150 ft/sec. 364 ft-lbs x 13-17 rounds
.45 ACP 230 gr. 855 ft/sec. 373 ft-lbs x 8 rounds


17 posted on 06/07/2017 8:49:18 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: Bryanw92

Ok you and are going to have a duel at 50 paces. There are two single shot pistols to choose from; a .45 ACP and a 9x19 mm parabellum. I’ll let you pick first. Which do you choose?


18 posted on 06/07/2017 8:54:04 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: thulldud

Well said!


19 posted on 06/07/2017 8:58:59 AM PDT by Crucial
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To: Mr. Lucky

Good point. I hope the question of whether they will be free or slaves will mostly be answered before that becomes an issue. If not, my kids will need to stock up.


20 posted on 06/07/2017 9:02:57 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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