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Trump Budget to Cut Federal Pensions
Cato Institute ^ | May 22, 2017 | Chris Edwards

Posted on 05/23/2017 11:58:43 AM PDT by abb

The Trump administration’s 2018 budget to be released tomorrow will include a range of proposed spending cuts. The budget will call for cuts to food stamps, Medicaid, and other entitlement programs. These reforms come on top of proposed cuts to discretionary programs released in March.

There is more good news. The budget will propose cuts to the fat benefit packages received by federal workers. An April CBO report found that benefits for the government’s civilian workers were 47 percent higher, on average, than for comparable private-sector workers.

One cause of the excess is that federal workers receive both a defined-benefit and defined-contribution pension plan. Pensions and other benefits for the 2.1 million federal civilian workers cost taxpayers about $80 billion a year (excluding postal workers). So federal benefits are a good place in the budget to tap for savings.

The Washington Post reports that the Trump budget will propose these reforms:

Increasing the required worker contribution to defined-benefit (DB) pension plans. Basing DB benefits on the average of the top five salary years rather than the top three. Ending cost of living increases for DB payouts.

These would be reasonable and long-overdue changes. Indeed, a better reform would be to phase out DB benefits for federal workers altogether. After all, just 13 percent of private sector workers even have DB plans. Federal compensation packages should reflect typical packages in the rest of the nation.

The Washington Post said, “The thought of Trump’s assault on federal retirement programs becoming law enrages federal employee leaders.” It certainly does. The paper quotes union leaders calling the proposals an “outrageous attack,” “downright mean,” and “beyond insulting.”

On the contrary, trimming the 47 percent advantage in benefits enjoyed by federal workers is a sensible attack on overspending. Furthermore, it is mean and insulting to taxpayers to give gold-plated pensions to workers inside the government bubble, especially since those favored few also have much higher job security than the rest of us.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: budget; pensions; trump
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It's a start
1 posted on 05/23/2017 11:58:43 AM PDT by abb
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To: abb

The idea is to force as many federal workers into leaving or retiring before the cuts are implemented. It helps drain the swamp.


2 posted on 05/23/2017 12:00:44 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius available at Amazon.)
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To: abb
https://www.downsizinggovernment.org/federal-worker-pay

The first table show wages only. The second includes pensions and health care beneifts.


3 posted on 05/23/2017 12:02:26 PM PDT by abb ("News reporting is too important to be left to the journalists." Walter Abbott (1950 -))
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To: Publius

It will work.

Here is an older article that shows the numbers:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/federal-eye/wp/2014/01/30/fed-worker-retirement-eligibility-to-skyrocket-by-2017-report-says/?utm_term=.62a5738ac57b


4 posted on 05/23/2017 12:04:23 PM PDT by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: abb

An April CBO report found that benefits for the government’s civilian workers were 47 percent higher, on average, than for comparable private-sector workers...

And how in the Fk is that possible or remotely fair?


5 posted on 05/23/2017 12:07:10 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: abb

When I was young (50-60’s), jobs in the Government didn’t pay nearly what the private sector paid, but the benefits were better. Too many years of Left Governing and the pay has far exceeded the private sector AND the benefits are out of sight. Time to rein in what our Government employees get and let the fair market determine what they are actually worth.


6 posted on 05/23/2017 12:09:40 PM PDT by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: Publius

Federal civilian workers truly have a “fat cat” retirement plan, having BOTH defined benefit AND defined contribution plans.

Wow.

No other plan, including our military, comes close, and these people do not make near the sacrifices.


7 posted on 05/23/2017 12:10:36 PM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: abb
Indeed, a better reform would be to phase out DB benefits for federal workers altogether.

I would assume that would include members of Congress? And how about the President? After all, 100% of salary after a maximum of 8 years work along with fully paid healthcare is far better than the average pension in private industry.

8 posted on 05/23/2017 12:12:41 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: abb
especially since those favored few also have much higher job security than the rest of us.

Especially since a very large percentage of them don't do anything but show up once in a while and collect a check.

If the average citizen had any idea what most fedgov "employees" do all day all hell would break loose.

9 posted on 05/23/2017 12:17:01 PM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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To: abb

Also, is the CATO Institute also talking about military pensions when they’re calling for cuts? I don’t think most people would agree with that.


10 posted on 05/23/2017 12:17:06 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Chauncey Gardiner

Have you taken an look at your state and local government employee bennies? It’s the same story.


11 posted on 05/23/2017 12:17:13 PM PDT by abb ("News reporting is too important to be left to the journalists." Walter Abbott (1950 -))
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To: Vendome

It isn’t fair. That’s why it’s so important for their overlords in the Democratic Party to keep up the illusion that government is indispensable to our very lives.


12 posted on 05/23/2017 12:17:15 PM PDT by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: Rome2000

I have worked alongside federales. From what I saw, one in five actually worked. If that.


13 posted on 05/23/2017 12:23:01 PM PDT by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! And please, God, bless the USA again.)
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To: Vendome; originalbuckeye

I see complete imbeciles every day making $75-90 grand that don’t know how to use a computer.

They hired liked crazy too before Hussein left.

“Workers” (management) that have a little something on the ball are getting $120K plus bonuses.

To dream up make work schemes and shuffle paper.


14 posted on 05/23/2017 12:23:11 PM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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To: Vendome

govt employee unions is how (which are a conflict of interest)


15 posted on 05/23/2017 12:33:04 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: abb

Cut government workers and the market will be flooded with unskilled workers to replace the illegal immigrants.


16 posted on 05/23/2017 12:34:50 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Rome2000
If the average citizen had any idea what most fedgov "employees" do all day all hell would break loose.

I'm guessing they show up late, make a coffee, schedule vacation days, take a break, put in a request for personal time, take a break, go to lunch, think about doing some work, take a break, have a meeting about cultural sensitivity, take a break, clock out early, go home and watch CNN...
17 posted on 05/23/2017 12:34:55 PM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: combat_boots

That jibes with my experience in both the state and federal environments. Government job security should come at the cost of lower wages and NO pension; let them save and invest like adults.


18 posted on 05/23/2017 12:35:41 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Government employees and welfare recipients are both net tax consumers. Often for life.)
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To: Trod Upon

I was one of those working quite literally as hard as I could, making up for them.


19 posted on 05/23/2017 12:38:07 PM PDT by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! And please, God, bless the USA again.)
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To: Rome2000
If the average citizen had any idea what most fedgov "employees" do all day all hell would break loose

I was an independent contractor; "Free Lance" is another word for it. So it is by direct knowledge that I challenge your use of the word most.

I worked at almost 20 different agencies, and the vast majority were competent, hard-working, friendly folks.

The more-than-a few "bad apples" were usually protected by someone else; like a politician, friend, lover or even bribes. Just my observations over seventeen years.

20 posted on 05/23/2017 12:47:08 PM PDT by Ace's Dad (BTW, "Ace" is now Captain Ace. But only when I'm bragging about my son!)
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