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Police can request ID,run background check on car passengers,Utah Supreme Court says
The Salt Lake Tribune ^ | MAY 7, 2017 | LUKE RAMSETH

Posted on 05/07/2017 3:25:53 PM PDT by mdittmar

The Utah Supreme Court has ruled police are allowed to ask for a passenger's identification and run a background check on them during a traffic stop — even without suspecting criminal activity.

In a 5-0 decision this week, justices overturned a 2014 district court ruling that argued such police actions were "beyond the scope of a routine traffic stop."

The ruling stems from a case involving Utah Highway Patrol Trooper Jeremy Horne, who stopped a car for an improper lane change. Horne collected IDs and ran a background check on the driver and the passenger, George Matthew Martinez Jr.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; itsokbecausesafety; lawsuit; papersplease; policestate; ruling; submit; tyranny
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1 posted on 05/07/2017 3:25:53 PM PDT by mdittmar
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They can request ID but passengers don’t have to carry it.


2 posted on 05/07/2017 3:28:01 PM PDT by JonPreston
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This will be overturned not because of constitutional issues, but democrats have proven that all minorities are too stupid to be able to obtain IDs


3 posted on 05/07/2017 3:29:16 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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New traffic offense - “Riding in a motor vehicle without ID”.


4 posted on 05/07/2017 3:29:40 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: mdittmar

Sort of makes me think of a 1941 era Gestapo checkpoint armed with a Schmeisser stopping a car and saying “Papers Please”.


5 posted on 05/07/2017 3:29:40 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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Sorta makes me think of not being a meth head.


6 posted on 05/07/2017 3:31:52 PM PDT by mdittmar
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I am 70 years old and have never used any illegal substance of any kind. Never even thought about it. Still the idea of a cop stopping me for any reason other than an active criminal investigation where it is really indicated, irritates the heck out of me.


7 posted on 05/07/2017 3:35:34 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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Why? You don’t want people with expired licenses and/or no insurance or registration off the road?

If you have your affairs in order, you’re fine.

If you don’t, you’re dangerous and should be off the road.

Sometimes the extremists for the term “Live free or die” get silly here.

People aren’t driving alone on the road.

Seems like a criminal background check for a job is more intrusive than checking to see if a license is valid.


8 posted on 05/07/2017 3:37:00 PM PDT by dp0622 (IThe only thing an upper crust Conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: yarddog

Since when has driving, or riding with a presumably licensed driver, become a right?


9 posted on 05/07/2017 3:38:22 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: mdittmar

“Papers please”


10 posted on 05/07/2017 3:39:13 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: mdittmar

Sorta makes me think I’d like to check YOUR papers....


11 posted on 05/07/2017 3:39:34 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: M-cubed

Feel free.


12 posted on 05/07/2017 3:44:24 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: DuncanWaring

New revenue collection infraction.


13 posted on 05/07/2017 3:46:03 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: mdittmar

The decision reads like it is a voluntary request for passenger ID. You can speculate on what happens next if the passenger says No.


14 posted on 05/07/2017 3:46:33 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: DuncanWaring

New traffic offense - “Riding in a motor vehicle without ID”.

yup - leviathan expands meanwhile so called conservatives applaud


15 posted on 05/07/2017 3:46:52 PM PDT by vooch (America First)
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To: dp0622

You might want to think about the article. It isn’t about the driver, it is about IDing the passengers.


16 posted on 05/07/2017 3:47:33 PM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: yarddog

Well,everyone is irritated if they get pulled over,that’s life.


17 posted on 05/07/2017 3:48:57 PM PDT by mdittmar
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I would have sued on the basis of discrimination....last name Martinez.

Now, as it stands in Utah, it seems if the police want to check immigration status, they can....


18 posted on 05/07/2017 3:49:29 PM PDT by stylin19a (Terrorists - "just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there")
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To: Truth29

Then they get the tasers out, naturally.


19 posted on 05/07/2017 3:49:43 PM PDT by Newtoidaho (Proud member of Trump's army of online trolls.)
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To: BenLurkin
“Papers please”

Correct. Should always be the presumption of innocence unless observable that a crime is being committed. This is America, after all. Or it was. If rules are enforced, such as preventing illegal aliens from breaking the law, then yes go ahead and ask for ID and get them out of here. But with all the rules being ignored or broken, then the law shouldn't arbitrarily ask for your papers. Most of us are innocent of wrong-doing.

20 posted on 05/07/2017 3:53:13 PM PDT by roadcat
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