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ObamaCare cost spike is Trump’s fault, ACA architect says
Fox News.com ^ | May 7, 2017

Posted on 05/07/2017 12:05:29 PM PDT by Kaslin

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To: LonePalm

[[Correlation is not causality]]

Of course is is- Camels are farting more and it’s getting warmer- therefore camel farts are causing climate change


41 posted on 05/07/2017 2:34:08 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: TMA62

well of course it was just the ‘dire possibility’ that trump might become president someday that caused them drop out- hence- ‘trump’s fault’


42 posted on 05/07/2017 2:35:54 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Kaslin; All
Between Trump and Gruber, I’d say that self-made billionaire Trump is the true, common-sense economist.

But patriots still need to get Trump up to speed with the fed’s constitutionally limited powers.


43 posted on 05/07/2017 2:38:12 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Kaslin

Annnnnd he just ignores the last 5 years?

The best part is his intellectual malfeasance.

ObamaCare officially ended taxpayer “Insurance”(LOL) to ensure profitability for these companies.

ObamaCare mandates preexisting coverage and tbe taxpayer is not on the hook for this and since insurance is an arbitrage model, they must necessarily raise the rates for everyone’s insurance.


44 posted on 05/07/2017 2:53:53 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Kaslin
Obamacare In a Nutshell photo ObamacareNutshell_zpsca885b3d.jpg
45 posted on 05/07/2017 2:57:46 PM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals crazy!)
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To: gaijin

such a punchable face.


46 posted on 05/07/2017 3:58:54 PM PDT by cidrasm
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To: madison10

If trump was to blame, premiums would not have been going thou the roof for the last 6 years before trump took office, and insurers would not have been droping out for the last several years before Trump took office.

Unless all the insurance companies were expecting Donald Trump to win the presidential election and enact theses policies not long after Obamacare was passed.

Obamacare is the problem Trump is the solution, if only he can get his repeal passed the senate RINOS.


47 posted on 05/07/2017 4:03:02 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Kaslin

This is normal for the left. Just blame your bullshit on anybody else. It keeps the snowflakes on the march to serfdom.


48 posted on 05/07/2017 4:12:00 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: Kaslin

Sounds like Gruber is Gruber-ing America again!


49 posted on 05/07/2017 4:53:37 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: DoughtyOne

If one of those #@%&$ ever told the truth my head would explode.


50 posted on 05/07/2017 6:35:31 PM PDT by genghis
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To: genghis

I theirs would explode if they ever tried to tell the truth.

You’re probably safe.


51 posted on 05/07/2017 6:39:21 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Happy days are here again!)
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To: Kaslin

I was going to ask how stupid could a college professor be who admitted that he helped create Obamacare, that it was used to fool the American people into buying into it, and that insurance premiums which rose under Obama in 2016, would have the balls to blame President Trump for the rise when he wasn’t even president.

Then I got to thinking. He’s an economics professor (leftist) at MIT and an Obama disciple. Need I say more?


52 posted on 05/07/2017 9:06:24 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Kaslin

Tomorrow lady botox will be blaming it on the evil booooshes.


53 posted on 05/08/2017 12:54:45 AM PDT by Trillian
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To: Kaslin

LOL! Like kicking the tires at a used car lot and being blamed when one falls off....


54 posted on 05/08/2017 2:35:27 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Kaslin

The premiums are going up because it was planned by Gruber as part of the design of Obamacare.

He planned this as a failure so single payer would be the next option.

This man is a liar and had done much to hurt our country and its citizens.


55 posted on 05/08/2017 2:59:28 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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MIT economics prof Jonathan Gruber, argued that perceived rising premium costs are really a one-time increase in 2016 to cover “massively underpriced” policies for the first two years of the 2010 law. He also said the increase “fixed” the problem because insurance companies were seeking signs of profitability and talking optimistically about continued participation in the program.

I guess Obama didn't let Gruber in on the "billion dollar secret." Probably Obama was depending on Gruber's stupidity (smirk).

"Now, I don't want you insurers to worry; when you start
losing money, we are going to jump in and bail you all out."

Obama Siphoned off GSE Dividends To Prop Up OBAMACARE

ZeroHedge ^ | April 2, 2017 / FR Posted on by Zakeet

Earlier this month, Harvard Ph.D. Jerome Corsi of InfoWars (@jerome_corsi) and a CPA "who worked for two years for a major U.S. accounting firm as an outside auditor for Freddie Mac," confirmed a 2012 scheme hatched by the Obama administration.

The audacious looting involved funnelling hundreds of billions in dividends from Government Sponsored Enterprises (GSE) Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to prop up the failing Obamacare program - by paying subsidies to insurers to remain in the system. [Snip]

The conclusion reached by Corsi and others is that this was probably illegal. In fact, House Republicans actually sued the Obama Administration in 2014 over the fact that the subsidies to insurers weren't appropriated by congress and won, which the Obama administration appealed.

Zerohedge and the Atlanta Journal Constitution pointed out last week, the Trump administration has until May 22nd to decide whether or not to pursue the appeal: (Excerpt) Read more at zerohedge.com ...

56 posted on 05/08/2017 2:24:06 PM PDT by Liz (Shutting down conservatives' free speech is a form of hate speech. samtheman)
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To: madison10
Hardly. Failure was planned into that mess.

Exactly. I think the intent was to have the whole thing come crashing down and forcing the government to institute single-payer health care. Which works so well. Just ask any Canadian. /s

We need to thank our lucky stars that we have a President Trump, who is doing his best to fix this disaster.

57 posted on 05/09/2017 12:47:04 AM PDT by proud American in Canada (God Bless the USA (Trump: "I will bear the slings and arrows for you, the American people))
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To: madison10
Hardly. Failure was planned into that mess.

Exactly. I think the intent was to have the whole thing come crashing down and forcing the government to institute single-payer health care. Which works so well. Just ask any Canadian. /s

We need to thank our lucky stars that we have a President Trump, who is doing his best to fix this disaster.

58 posted on 05/09/2017 12:47:04 AM PDT by proud American in Canada (God Bless the USA (Trump: "I will bear the slings and arrows for you, the American people))
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Yes, failure was planned...To force single-payer!

Exactly! Please see my posts 57 and 58, I believe.

Either one will do because I accidentally double-posted. :)

BTW, please look at my recent posting history for an experience in a QC emergency room regarding my 18 month old daughter with an ear infection ... spent around twelve hours there with a crying, fussy toddler in pain.

When we lived in Denver, if one of my children got sick, I could call and we would be seen the same day.

Here, you are VERY lucky if you get a family doctor, and the wait times for appointments or in the ER are ridiculous (months, hours, respectively). There was even a case where a man died on a gurney in an Ottawa hospital while waiting over eighteen hours, I believe, to see a doctor in the ER.

59 posted on 05/09/2017 1:02:40 AM PDT by proud American in Canada ( God Bless America (Trump: I will bear the slings and arrows for you, the American people)
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To: Bob434

Ah, but you see.... the term of Art now used in the stated “less expensive” analysis and research outcomes is to use....

“EVENTISM” The events, you see are measurable (and can be selectively measured for outcomes, conveniently for desired outcomes of a specific policy direction, politically motivated). So, event A happens in what would be a statistically frequency and incidence, but in a “less costly” fashion, is accepted in broad conclusions no longer using statistical confidence intervals.

Which is why “correlation” can become.... causality. Because someone structures the statistical test in completely a completely flawed way, that is provably incorrect and in most cases, biased.


60 posted on 05/09/2017 8:17:52 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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