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Mulvaney: Trump Is Building A Wall Right Now, Here Are The Pictures
RealClearPolitics ^ | May 2, 2017 | Tim Hains

Posted on 05/04/2017 10:43:20 AM PDT by Red Steel

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To: Hennible Cobb

That’s not what Trump said. Trump said repeatedly and often that Mexico would pay for the wall through the tariffs we would impose on Mexico, which didn’t make any sense. The Carrier thing etc. is Trump’s negotiating power but he never said Mexico would pay because of our negotiating power. He repeatedly said it would be through tariffs imposed on Mexico which didn’t make sense.

I challenged Trump’s claims last year and said the U.S. would pay for the wall which it appears that is exactly what we are doing. That’s fine, but that is not what Trump said.

Comprende?


41 posted on 05/04/2017 12:27:16 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Jarhead9297

Thanks for getting the facts out.


42 posted on 05/04/2017 12:27:36 PM PDT by maxtheripper
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To: Jim 0216

Well, Jim, I’d never looked at it that way before.

I thought paying one way was the equivalent of paying another way.

You say I’m wrong. Very well then, I’m wrong.

You’re a pretty cool guy. Aren’t you?


43 posted on 05/04/2017 12:33:27 PM PDT by Hennible Cobb (Don't wait for orders! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: Kazan

Who said anything about not big happy with building the wall?

Get a grip. You and I both know Trump promised repeatedly and often that Mexico would pay for the wall (not “the wall will pay for itself”). The wall may very well pay for itself but that was not Trump’s argument or promise during the campaign. Pay attention.

Holding a politician to his promises is not “bellyaching” - it’s called “TRUST BUT VERIFY”, not unlike a treaty. NOT holding politicians to their promises is how we got into this mess to begin with.

If Trump was going to build a wall regardless of who pays for it then he should have said so during the campaign. But he didn’t. Time to wise up and hold politicians accountable for their promises.


44 posted on 05/04/2017 12:36:05 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Hennible Cobb

Yup. I’m a cool guy.

All I’m saying is if Trump were going to build the wall regardless of how it was paid for, then he should have said so, but he didn’t.

Give him credit for keeping his promise to build the wall but hold him accountable for his promise that Mexico would pay for it with imposed tariffs.


45 posted on 05/04/2017 12:39:14 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: maxtheripper

My pleasure. It helps to have the facts on the table prior to taking stances. And if shown evidence to the contrary I’ll be happy to have been proven wrong.

See I’m not someone that takes offense when proven wrong. I embrace it and it’s good to be plagued with self doubt. You grow from it


46 posted on 05/04/2017 12:40:48 PM PDT by Jarhead9297
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To: Jarhead9297

Then I must be growing big league on the personal side.
Ha Ha


47 posted on 05/04/2017 12:51:22 PM PDT by maxtheripper
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To: maxtheripper

Hahaha!!!


48 posted on 05/04/2017 12:55:11 PM PDT by Jarhead9297
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To: Red Steel

The wall shown in the picture is from an ongoing project, however Mulvaney specifically stated the new money would allow them to purchase more of this type of wall to continue the project.

He also explained this wall is levee wall that is needed along waterways. The reason for the slats is to allow water to flow through when there is a flood. It’s what the Border Patrol wanted installed, because it is the most effective.

Additionally, enforcing immigration policy is our responsibility. If we determine we want a wall, we should pay for it. If President Trump can get Mexico to fund it, then bonus. I wouldn’t expect my neighbor to pay for my fence, well unless he offered.


49 posted on 05/04/2017 12:58:46 PM PDT by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: House Atreides

Israel knows how to build security walls.


50 posted on 05/04/2017 1:04:43 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Jim 0216
You and I both know Trump promised repeatedly and often that Mexico would pay for the wall

Who gives a hoot if Mexico pays for it or not? The money is utterly insignificant. That it gets built is what matters. If that doesn't satisfy you, you're hopeless and just looking for something to be miserable about.

It's this kind of nonsense that makes even principled politicians believe they can't satisfy their base. That makes them more likely to break promise. You'd doing more harm than good, assuming you're not some liberal troll to begin with.

51 posted on 05/04/2017 1:19:53 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Jim 0216
And, you don't seem to grasp that when you're negotiating you start from a position that is unacceptable to those you're trying to make a deal with and then settle for a deal you want.

Even Reagan agreed to tax increases for spending cuts (that never happened).

#NeverHappyEver

52 posted on 05/04/2017 1:25:30 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: PJammers

The reason for the slats is to allow water to flow through when there is a flood.

***********

That is also the prefence of the Border Patrol so they can see thru to what is on the other side.
Mulvaney alluded to that a couple of times in his presentation.


53 posted on 05/04/2017 1:41:55 PM PDT by deport
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To: Kazan

Again all of that is wonderful and give Trump credit for fulfilling his promise to build the wall.

But stick to the point. Trump is accountable for his promise for Mexico to pay with imposed tariffs, which I said all last year was impossible. U.S tariffs imposed on Mexico is NOT how this wall is being paid for.

Common, hold politicians accountable or you ratify wrongful political behavior which includes repeated unfulfilled promises which got us into this mess to begin with.

You speak for the corrupt establishment when you call holding politicians accountable “#NeverHappyEver”. They love hearing that.


54 posted on 05/04/2017 2:27:26 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216
Trump is accountable for his promise for Mexico to pay with imposed tariffs,

99% of conservatives could care less so long as the wall is built.

No politician, not even Reagan, can fulfill every promise. You don't seem to grasp that.

55 posted on 05/04/2017 4:05:43 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Luircin
Trump is a lot smarter than most of his FR critics. Keep the faith children.
56 posted on 05/04/2017 5:36:31 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: PJammers
Yes, this is the "wall" the Border Patrol wants. But we have a bunch of einsteins here who know better than the Border Patrol what is good for them. That's FR, circa 2017, unfortunately.
57 posted on 05/04/2017 5:46:18 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

Hee hee....darn those keyboard Border Patrolers ;-)


58 posted on 05/04/2017 5:47:32 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Helicondelta

Why do people use KiB instead of KB or Kb?

Annoying.


59 posted on 05/04/2017 7:32:33 PM PDT by jurroppi1 (The Left doesnÂ’t have ideas, it has cliches. H/T Flick Lives)
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To: Jim 0216

Just one thing. The CR was part of the LAST so called Budget under Obama.

It is called a Continuing Resolution because it insures the Money will be there to continue what the original so called Budget outlined while keeping the Government funded.

In other words, it authorized the continued borrowing of funds so the Government would not be “shut down”, whatever the hell that means.

In this case, the new Administration was able to change some parts of the already planned spending, something that I heard has only happened once before.

We may be dealing with Apples versus Oranges here.

Just sayin’...


60 posted on 05/04/2017 7:46:51 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The way Liberals carry on about Deportation, you would think "Mexico" was Spanish for "Auschwitz".)
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