Posted on 05/01/2017 8:42:05 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
“...... after a year and a half of Rush Limbaugh applauding him at every turn......”
After reading this outlandish LIE in the first sentence of an article, WHY would you read further?
LS, we are seeing through the smoke and mirrors of the Republican leadership. Hopefully Trump is waking up.
We’ve been had and we’re not liking it, Trump is tettering on the edge of being a one term has been.
Rumor is Kennedy to retire this summer and Ruth said if Trump was elected she’d move to Canada.....
You are wrong about the republican leadership.
Their plan is the same as the Democrats, nothing different.
Republican is a soiled brand name. You can’t fight 100% corrupt.
I haven’t seen anyone mention that Trump’s tax plan eliminates the 10% bracket and starts with 15%. It is so obvious to me that the plan helps the wealthy and pays for it with a broad-based increase on those who are working but struggling.
It would seem we have a champion that's all mouth and no balls..!
"Their only strategy is preemptive surrender."
"Their only plan for victory is to pee off their base as much as they can." "The Republican Party is no vehicle for conservatism."
Well said... Thanks for that....
I've perused the comments on this thread, and listened to commentary about it on the radio. The last sentence of the article is what I haven't heard anyone talk about. Trump could make a statement that would go along way simply by vetoing the bill and explaining why at his rallies and other places outside of total MSM and Beltway control. Congress would have to override the veto. That would make the political class own it and give Trump political capitol with his supporters and tax payers in general for the mid term elections.
As it stands, it looks like Trump is going to go along with it. Spicer got up yesterday and talked up how the admin was doing a great job, becasue it got stuff into a bill that should have been passed before it took office. That doesn't fly with me. If the admin does not oppose it with a veto, it is tacit approval of the big spending/pro illegal immigration bill. Trump will own the budget (along with all the associated fiscal, legal and social problems it causes), the media will crow about what a loss it was for an ineffectual president, and the American people will be stuck with the bill for it all.
I'd rather Trump take a stand here, as I think this is a hill the American people need him to fight for.
Spend 2017 making sure all of the RINO douchebags running in 2018 get primaried out...
They take my $700 per month medicare premium out of my social security leaving me only $600 a month. Medicare isn’t cheap and you have no choice at age 65 if you are on SS. And this is just medicare, doesn’t include drugs. And we also have to have AETNA Supplemental insurance, not cheap. None of my health insurance includes vision or dental. I have never had major injury or surgery. Have my original organs and joints. 20 20 vision at age 66, just readers from Walgreens for small print. Haven’t had to stay in hospital for illness for many decades, just mono, in 1970. I go to dr once or twice a year for healthy check ups when my dr insists. But paying MOST of my retirement money for medicare, etc.
Amen!
With a few adjustments, I could have written your post. Medicare requirements actually work out to cost me more for health insurance than when I was working. And no vision or dental.
Only 2 of our family have health insurance. Our daughter hab baby at home in January. Cost 5k for midwife to attend. I paid that. They always had health insurance until obamacare. Too costly now. The majority of lower middle class Americans can afford health insurance anymore.
On the other hand our son has no health insurance, since obamacare... he went to a walk in health care center in Santa Ana California and total bill was $120. Cheaper than pain 244 a month for obamacare plus co pays.
And they gave us no choice. You collect SS, you are at their mercy on medicare costs. There is no reward for living health lifestyle. Not smok8ng, etc. And this doesn’t include l9ng term care, which would be great as we age.
Too many Pubbies are afraid of their own shadow, afraid of bad press or are too busy feathering their nest to rock the boat.
If they continue like this they may lose the house.
Second, its a wasted effort for Trump to write his own legislation
I do not think it would be a wasted effort. He needs to get out on the stump and talk about the bill and show everyone what the Pubbies are refusing to do.
Follow the Reagan game plan, go directly to the American people.
Allahdatime?
The secret is to take control of the party apparatus and finally be really, noticeably different from Democrats (repeal a LOT without replacement, being one way).
For example: then under McGovern when the filthy radicals among the Democrats were joined with the filthy radicals who had left the Republicans they swept into the party infrastructure, bringing more and more of their kind and elbowing out disgruntled old style Democrats who couldn’t take their politics.
Carter was the last push of the old Democrats to take back the party and his presidency was sabotaged more from their animosity towards them than even the events of his Presidency simply because he’d no one he could really trust at the DNC.
This must be an object lesson for us now: the so-called “uniparty” vs Trump is once again a POTUS vs NOT-US struggle and unless we take the party from the roots up I’ve no doubt the NOT-US side hopes for a second Carter and the end of resistance to their persistence.
But unlike the Democrats, Republicans have Stockholm Syndrome simply because we’ve gotten used to sucking less and the RNC is like the Laodicean Party ... a party that is constitutionally compromised (neither being whole hog for lawlessness nor against it as long as government has gotten away with it already) and historically would rather be liked by Democrats (and maintain an illusion of statesmanlike conviviality) than really win and do away with the enemy.
And then who would repeal THAT?
One of the problems with Obozocare was that it doubled down on stupid: on the abuse of insurance as if assurance that had largely been the cause of breaking our former system.
Because the American people have been brainwashed into thinking insurance is a good way to pay for services rather than just a financial tool there is little hope for them to go back to not abusing insurance so the only real reform possible is to remove at both the federal and State levels those things that mandate being over insured (the socialization of insurance by legal tampering with what must be covered) and opening up insurance to competition as much as possible.
Be nice to do what little could be done to break the link between insurance and employment as well ... say by removing the idea that employer provided insurance premiums aren’t wages.
Instead the Republicans wanted to give the insurance companies a slightly smaller massive gift at the expensed the American people.
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