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Canada says don't blame it for Wisconsin dairy woes
Milwaukee Urinal-Sentinel ^ | April 11, 2017 | Rick Barrett

Posted on 04/26/2017 5:50:47 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

Edited on 04/26/2017 7:08:48 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

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“We don’t feel good about U.S. farms going out of business. But you know what? It’s not our responsibility. It’s your own responsibility, as a country, to manage your production,” said Isabelle Bouchard, director of government relations for the trade group Dairy Farmers of Canada.

“We are a nation of 36 million people, less than the population of California. How do you expect us to (consume) your over-supply of milk when we already produce milk for our market?”

1 posted on 04/26/2017 5:50:47 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Gee.... Whatever happened to NAFTA? My guess is it never really did apply to Canada or Mexico, just limits what the U.S. can do to protect itself.

BTW, milk is way overpriced as it is.....

2 posted on 04/26/2017 5:56:13 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: jeffc

My understanding is that agricultural products generally aren’t covered by NAFTA, so tariffs on these things are actually pretty common.


3 posted on 04/26/2017 5:58:40 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Canada is right.

Surely, the dairy business saw this coming a mile down the road. They’ve had time to make new contracts with other companies. There are shortages all over the world and right here in the US. Our local grocery store is out of milk constantly. Sure, it’s due to poor management but there is a shortage that needs to be filled. Cheese could do with a market gut when boring store brand tiny 4 oz wedges cost upwards of $7-10.


4 posted on 04/26/2017 6:00:26 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: bgill
There are shortages all over the world and right here in the US.

The article says the exact opposite is the case.

5 posted on 04/26/2017 6:03:07 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

$5 for four sticks of generic butter at the store yesterday.

Crazy.


6 posted on 04/26/2017 6:07:03 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Deportation mayhem is just birthing pains for a new America.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

So what it sounds like is Canadian processors are buying what amounts to a different product from the suppliers. It seems that processors are no longer having to purchase “ultra filtered milk”, but can use more natural, or less processed milk.

This makes me wonder what the reason was in the first place to use ultra-filtered milk, and why is it no longer necessary. Does this present some kind of risk for the consumer? Will the product change? It seems that we’ve just changed what we allow up here, which is allowing milk to be purchased from Canadian farmers rather than importing it from America.

Now I wonder another thing - who was this less-filtered milk being sold to before the change in the law? If there are now more processors purchasing Canadian milk, won’t this lead to a shortage of milk supply from our Canadian farmers? Unless we were throwing it all out, we should still need to import, I would think.

This is very interesting - I’d like to know all of the details.


7 posted on 04/26/2017 6:09:13 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: bgill

“Cheese could do with a market gut when boring store brand tiny 4 oz wedges cost upwards of $7-10.”

I don’t know where you are shopping, but here in California I can pick up a 4 lb block for about 11 bucks at Food Max.


8 posted on 04/26/2017 6:13:24 AM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: JudyinCanada

We had issues over a decade ago, where historic Maine dairy farms were shutting down, as they couldn’t compete with large Midwestern dairy farms who shipped-in (liquid) milk.

The were doing such a good job out there that they practically killed the industry here. Since milk has a fairly short shelf life (and isn’t that great a food item IMHO) a bunch of dairy producers cropped up, and began making more durable products such as cheese and butter.

I buy plenty of dairy products, but never milk. If I did, I would go to a local farmer and get some raw milk with the cream floating on top.


9 posted on 04/26/2017 6:31:28 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (The fear of stark justice sends hot urine down their thighs.)
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To: jeffc
I don't see anything about Canada selling their milk to the US, just about them not buying ours.

Remember, MAGA.

Works both ways.

If we are going to buy and support America, we can't expect Canada to be any different supporting themselves.

10 posted on 04/26/2017 6:32:01 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Cheese, yogurt and butter are the dairy products I purchase. We don’t drink milk. I may use a little in a cup of tea now and again, but that’s about it.

I used goat’s milk when the kids were young. Cow’s milk caused ear infections. I suspect it’s the reason so many little kids are having tubes put in their ears in order to allow them to drain. As if, all of a sudden, kids ears are all defective.

If the whole issue is free trade but fair trade, I’ve got to come down on Canada’s side with this one.


11 posted on 04/26/2017 6:38:54 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: Rebelbase
Land o lakes is generally in the $4.69-$5.00 per pound range.

During Thanksgiving and Christmas it goes on sale. Usually I'll get it at $2.00, but sometimes $2.50.

I buy 50-60# and freeze it.

Lasts until the next holiday season, where I do it again.

12 posted on 04/26/2017 6:41:13 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Rebelbase

Stock up when it’s on sale. Freezes well.
I bought 5 pounds ($1.99) couple weeks ago when on sale at Aldi.

But yeah, I get what you’re saying.
Costco brand cheddar cheese went up almost a buck between purchases in about one month to $5.49 for two pounds. (still *WAY CHEAPER* than Publix or Kroger)


13 posted on 04/26/2017 6:44:30 AM PDT by Original Lurker
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To: JudyinCanada

“If the whole issue is free trade but fair trade, I’ve got to come down on Canada’s side with this one.”

I think we’re going to see a lot of this under President Trump. Hopefully, we’ll both win. :)


14 posted on 04/26/2017 6:58:23 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set!)
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To: Alberta's Child

For years now we’ve enjoyed ultra sharp 7 year old Canadian cheddar cheese, from our local PA Farmers Market. Wisconsin should crank up and produce that cheese themselves. I’ll buy it instead.


15 posted on 04/26/2017 7:00:58 AM PDT by Tucker39 (In giving us The Christ, God gave us the ONE thing we desperately NEEDED; a Savior.)
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To: Alberta's Child

If there were an article stating the moon was made of green cheese, you’d believe it?


16 posted on 04/26/2017 7:02:56 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I think Canada is right on this one.


17 posted on 04/26/2017 7:24:13 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: bgill

If you don’t believe the basic premise of the article, then why did you even bother posting a comment about it here? Are you suggesting that the farmers quoted here are fictitious people, or that they’re lying?


18 posted on 04/26/2017 7:46:24 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: JudyinCanada

We saw the exact opposite situation unfold about ten years ago when the U.S. government banned the import of Canadian beef during the “mad cow” disease hysteria. Canadian ranchers ended up with entire herds of cattle that: (1) they couldn’t sell, and (2) they couldn’t afford to feed. Sounds like the U.S. dairy farmers to reach out to these Canadian ranchers to see how to cope with their plight.


19 posted on 04/26/2017 7:50:09 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Tucker39
I bought some 13 yr old cheddar once.

WOW!!!

That's something you'll never forget.

IIRC the price was something like $26 a pound.

20 posted on 04/26/2017 8:03:17 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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