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Why We Shouldn’t Punish Mothers Harshly For Abortion Even Though It Is Murder
The Federalist ^ | 04/18/2017 | Z.W.Lucow

Posted on 04/18/2017 6:23:03 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: blackdog

Only non Christian cultures practice infanticide.


21 posted on 04/18/2017 7:27:28 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Lex rex)
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To: SeekAndFind
As someone aptly stated, "The law is an ass".

Just as it is not right to refuse to punish some under the law, it is also wrong to punish those who work within the law. Until the law is changed, babies will die and the atrocity will continue.

22 posted on 04/18/2017 7:43:02 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: originalbuckeye

We punish a woman severely for killing her baby 1 day after birth. What would so different about her killing the same baby 1 day before birth?


23 posted on 04/18/2017 7:46:50 AM PDT by Socon-Econ
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To: ClearCase_guy

And how do you stop it without the perpetrators suffering some consequences? And do you still call it murder?


24 posted on 04/18/2017 7:53:36 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: Socon-Econ

I think that Hillary’s answer, that she believed in abortion right up to live birth, is one of the many factors that sunk her campaign. She would never admit to that, but even those who do believe in abortion, don’t believe in abortion after viability. Hillary is soulless, as are most of those who supported her. Just a comment.


25 posted on 04/18/2017 7:56:15 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: Bishop_Malachi; ClearCase_guy

“But how wrong can it really be if you don’t want anyone punished at all?”

I think it’s called wanting the cake and eating it too


26 posted on 04/18/2017 7:57:41 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: freedomfiter2

I will let America and Europe know.


27 posted on 04/18/2017 8:02:01 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: ClearCase_guy

Murdering children is bad and I want it to stop.

it will not stop without legal restrictions...

I want the number of abortions to decrease...So putting women in prison is not something I have any interest in.

most people want bank robberies to decrease; you think this is accomplished by indifference to the perpetrators...?


28 posted on 04/18/2017 8:24:52 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: momincombatboots

More than 50 percent are being coerced or pressured into the abortion

from where do you get that number..?

If they go to jail, then send their baby daddies

only if they are aware of their parenthood, and in fact take an active role in contracting with the mother and doctor...


29 posted on 04/18/2017 8:29:02 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: freedomfiter2

You make a great point.

Abortion, after all is America’s Holocaust.


30 posted on 04/18/2017 8:34:48 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: SeekAndFind
In the 1970s, the Guttmacher Institute did a study where they asked women considering abortion whether they would have one if abortion were not legal. Only 10% of the women questioned answered that they would still try to get an abortion even if they had to search out an illegal abortionist.

So, 90% of the women questioned would not even consider abortion if it weren't legal. That was in the 1970s.

Let us consider this: Planned Parenthood and SEICUS and the NEA have worked very hard to train children to accept abortion as a right, so that when they become of age it would only be natural for them to consider abortion as one of their options.

To blame the woman solely for getting an abortion is not only unfair but it also allows the perps off the hook completely who teach our children that killing their baby is the best and only option.

31 posted on 04/18/2017 8:36:23 AM PDT by Slyfox (Where's Reagan when we need him? Look in the mirror - the spirit of The Gipper lives within you.)
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To: IrishBrigade

Purely from my personal experience at a crisis pregnancy center.. That probably skews the data, a little. Pressure comes from family, the sperm donor.. husbands who don’t want the fiscal responsibility. Pressure also comes from the sheer prospect of emotionally and financially having a baby. None of that is an excuse for stopping a heartbeat, but putting all of them in jail is not going to work. Ultrasounds work.
Some of these girls were threatened and some experienced abuse from the pressuring people. Some were simply abandoned by everyone they think cares for them.
It is interesting to recall my own experiences with financial hardship and pregnancy. I think that is normal, but someone who uses it for evil, selfish purposes to coerces and abuse someone to make a binary choice is powerful. They often don’t see options or have hope.


32 posted on 04/18/2017 8:50:10 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Gas attacks. Substitute Sadam for Assad and Iraq for Syria? How many American lives do you commit)
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To: SeekAndFind
While the argument is familiar, it is not persuasive.

If an unborn child is human life, then abortion is murder...And most heinous at that.

33 posted on 04/18/2017 8:57:13 AM PDT by gogeo (When your life is based on a false premise...you are indeed insane.)
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To: blackdog

Nature does not self regulate. A mother dog has 7 puppies who can each have 7 more.

A woman can have 12 children who each have many more. Nature is exponential.

Who here volunteers to support 7 + 12, + 50 + 100 + 1000 + 10,0000 + 1,000,000 dogs and children.
Regulate them, their teen parents, pay them, educate them, feed them, govern them?

Who here claims they are more powerful than Mother Nature?


34 posted on 04/18/2017 9:00:44 AM PDT by TheNext (Individual Mandate NO V.S. Individual Health Savings account HSA - YES)
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To: SeekAndFind

Dead is Dead.. period. How ya reach that state is out of the control of the unborn. and the born.

For those who are pained when life is snuffed and express sorrow, thank you, for those who snuff life to keep their lifestyle, for shame.

We live in a time when life has no value to many.. and a time when some gleefully fulfill their mission of murdering and don’t bat an eye doing it.. God help us all.


35 posted on 04/18/2017 9:05:54 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!!)
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To: TheNext

Nature does not self regulate.

what an utterly nonsensical statement; in the state of nature, all procreation is subject to natural attrition...

almost every family in the mid nineteenth century knew the pain of losing at least one child, if not more, due to natural causes...


36 posted on 04/18/2017 9:24:34 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: jr3000

the ‘mother’ puts out a hit on their child and contracts with a doctor to do the hit- why shouldn’t she be charged?


37 posted on 04/18/2017 9:36:21 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: SeekAndFind

My reply.

Wrong.


38 posted on 04/18/2017 11:21:09 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is paternalist pap.

The culture isnt lying to women. And the women are not simple little things that cannot figure things out for themselves.

Women wanted this power and stupidly society caved in and gave it to them. Now they want to blame society and men for giving it to them.


39 posted on 04/18/2017 11:23:08 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I,will really be glad when old,farts like,this guy are gone. They are involved in paternalistic pedestal worship of women and they have encouraved this unequal crap going on in society by going along with paternalistic exceptions for women, and women accepting only the exceptions that make them look good or give them special rights and treatment.


40 posted on 04/18/2017 11:25:53 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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