Posted on 04/08/2017 2:11:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Let's see if this does the trick.
House Republican leaders, looking to jump-start their floundering effort to repeal and replace Obamacare, on Thursday said they were proposing creating a $15 billion federal high-risk pool that would provide insurance coverage to Americans with pre-existing and often serious health issues.
Speaker Paul Ryan said the provision would "lower premiums" for other, healthier people who buy individual health plans by shifting the risk of covering higher health-care users to the federal risk pool.
Ryan, R-Wis., also said it "gets us closer together, closer to that consensus" needed to pass the GOP replacement bill.
But, "I want to be clear: we still have more work to do," Ryan told reporters.
The federal pool, which would be funded with $15 billion, would be replaced by individual state-run high-risk pools in 2020.
It is far from clear whether the inclusion of the provision — which is based on the state of Maine's high-risk pool — in the American Health Care Act bill would do enough to garner the Republican votes needed to pass that legislation, and send it to the Senate for review.....
(Excerpt) Read more at cnbc.com ...
Like it or hate it, IMO this necessary. Chronically ill, high maintenance patients need to be extracted from the general population in terms of insurance coverage.
“The federal pool, which would be funded with $15 billion, would be replaced by individual state-run high-risk pools in 2020. “
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I’m not sure actually, that the GOP should at all start to pare back that fund.
Really.
Sure, remove the feds from otherwise covering things, but as for the portion of insurance which others will not cover, I think it would be a BIG mistake, to try to remove coverage from anyone.
I am frankly, very puzzled by how many are opposed to this. It seems very basic, to me.
If someone can not get coverage elsewhere, the government should absolutely, step in.
100%.
that pool is missing a couple zeros at the end of it....
Otherwise people will try to go on Medicaid which is not really what Medicaid is for.
“The federal pool, which would be funded with $15 billion, would be replaced by individual state-run high-risk pools in 2020.”
Wouldn’t the states just funnel those people into Medicaid?
ok lyin ryan: first, give us the whole bill to read, with time to read it.
as for the bill, two provisions are necessary to keep your gop promise (the rest is upto you):
1. a complete repeal ala mo brooks/steve king as a first page in the bill and
2. anything you force on us, you and your gope cronies are also required to receive, in full.
I don’t see how this will help smaller groups who have pre-existing conditions. This will balloon into a group offering which will compete with the insurance companies. Otherwise, without the mandates, certain groups will be shunned. Maybe they can just let such groups shop individually with some kind of employer subsidy or something like that.
Republicans are witless.
If Pres. Trump CONTINUES to support Soros and Gorelick
through his son in law, and CONTINUES to deny repealing
ObamaCARE through theliar-Ryan, his supporters
will be evanescent.
I dont qualify for medicaid...or health insurance other than short term Insurance thanks to sleep apnea...and being self employed one person operation..gotta have two to get group health Insurance
Earlier this month, Harvard Ph.D. Jerome Corsi of InfoWars (@jerome_corsi) and a CPA "who worked for two years for a major U.S. accounting firm as an outside auditor for Freddie Mac," confirmed a 2012 scheme hatched by the Obama administration.
The audacious looting involved funnelling hundreds of billions in dividends from Government Sponsored Enterprises (GSE) Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to prop up the failing Obamacare program - by paying subsidies to insurers to remain in the system. [Snip]
The conclusion reached by Corsi and others is that this was probably illegal. In fact, House Republicans actually sued the Obama Administration in 2014 over the fact that the subsidies to insurers weren't appropriated by congress and won, which the Obama administration appealed.
Zerohedge and the Atlanta Journal Constitution pointed out last week, the Trump administration has until May 22nd to decide whether or not to pursue the appeal: (Excerpt) Read more at zerohedge.com ...
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AND THIS---Dr Carson's Audit found HUD Can Not Account for $520 Billion
thenationalrealestatepost.com ^ | 3/22/2017 | Frank and Brian / FR Posted by TheTimeOfMan
A federal high risk pool is the only solution. It’s the only way to keep the cost of insurance and medications in line.
Like it or not there is going to be some sort of a USG-run healthcare system or component of the healthcare system. Trump promised as much when he was running where he said something to the effect that “We are going to take care of everybody!”. This probably the does the least violence to “medical market forces” of the USG -oriented proposals.
It’s still doomed to failure in the long run as is everything that is socialistic.
This is another non starter.
There is no/are no substantive changes to make health care either better or cheaper...just moving beans around to different voting blocs and big donors.
“reduce premiums’ compared to what??
How about first letting free market insurance to cross state lines...
and health care coop and savings accounts,
and agreeing to pass legislation and not cleverly sign papers and regs that can be repealed with the stroke of a pen.
This is just more posturing.
TWB
I agree. As long as the Pre-Existing-Conditions-Crowd (PECC) has to be covered by the insurance industry there will never be affordable health care. So spreading those costs out at the Federal and State levels makes some sense.
But don't ignore the fact that many of the PECCs have brought on that "pre-existing condition themselves by reckless eating and drug habits and other lifestyle choices. We are paying for those folks as well.
It’s the only way to do it.
It’s not “insurance” if you cover pre-existing conditions. At that point it’s just a slush fund.
Create a high-risk pool and call it what it is... welfare.
http://americandigest.org/mt-archives/citizens/ann_barnhardt_on_health_c.php
Simply allow insurance companies to legally offer health insurance to individuals.
Keep ObamaCare, and in time it will become the high risk pool, and it can be subsided as need be.
Socialism sucks.
as for the bill, two provisions are necessary to keep your gop promise (the rest is upto you):
1. a complete repeal ala mo brooks/steve king as a first page in the bill and
2. anything you force on us, you and your gope cronies are also required to receive, in full.’
You have great suggestions.
Ryan seems to be doing a secretive closed door deal with only his way..or no way as the binary options.
TWB
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