Posted on 03/30/2017 9:03:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
You forgot to include signing a NASA bill that funds “Earth Science” (aka global warming hokum) at $1.8B. Less than it got in 2016 but more than it got in 2015.
Talk is great. But where’s the action?
if all you watch is cnnfnccnbcmsnbcabcpbscbs then all you will see are fake polls, fake news, and doom and gloom.
Bypass the dinosaur media and the un reported successes add up.
I agree that he is departing from conservatives and I can accept that - in some cases - without throwing him under the bus. I saw and continue to see Trump as an American first and believe that he will do what he thinks is best for America, although I may sometimes disagree, as in the case of AHCA.
I just don’t see the logic in allying with Ryan - one of Trump’s most fervent critics and opponents - and blaming the Freedom Caucus for the failure of AHCA. The AHCA was a poorly-prepared, poorly-coordinated bill that Ryan attempted to ram through the House quickly, a la Nancy Pelosi. Under the circumstances, I don’t think there was ever an honest effort or the time, under Ryan’s timeline, to make any substantive changes to the bill. Ryan obviously told Trump he could get it done and done quickly and saw an opportunity to ensure the continuation of a version of Obamacare into perpetuity. Did Ryan do anything legislatively to oppose its implementation? Ryan never had any intent to pursue Phase II and certainly not Phase III and the Freedom Caucus knew it. While I blame Ryan primarily, Trump’s the chief executive so he has to share the blame.
For the vast majority of his campaign promises (now policies), he is far more likely to find support among the Freedom Caucus than among the GOP or Democratic establishment, which I happen to think are one and the same. To illustrate, some GOP members of the House are already making noises that they don’t support Trump’s proposed border wall and intend to offer an “alternative”. You can bet that Ryan is among them, albeit in the shadows - for now.
pretend fighters.
need issues for reelection not solutions.
If there are additional negotiations underway and the FC are not giving an inch, then maybe Trump is kicking up some dust.
So where can the HFC drive this to get people on board? Can they even do that and maintain a purely "principled stand"? They cannot, and thus they need to be legislators, and not ideologues, especially since Obamacare remains.
My prediction: Trump is willing to go one more weekend on this issue, and he will be sitting with either the HFC and Ryan, or the Dems with an "Obamacare fix" effort.
So where is the FCs better bill? They offer nothing, just throw rocks at people trying to pass something. I used to be a supporter but watching them this past week I’m beginning to wonder if they aren’t just attention whores. Get in there and WORK, get as much as you can and if you can’t get everything work on a bill that will fix it.
The way they are going we aren’t going to get anything and then there is a very real possibility that there will be a dem house and senate in 2018 and guess what that means for our agenda.
SUPER WOMAN!!
Well said and written.
For pity’s sake, we allowed just how many and who to lead us into this quicksand and closed our eyes gladly following them.
GIVE the man a chance before throwing he first stone. DJT is working against forces with only the weapons given him. Republicans have seldom been on the same page at the same time. Why should the spineless bastards be any different now?
Mr. President, surely you’ve considered the fact that the population is standing on shaky legs due to the fact we fear the unknown. We put the FC/TEA party in office in order to hold accountable those who need to be held. Ryan is one of ‘those’. You’ve tried using the vinegar, is the time ripe to begin to put the honey to use?
as stated by the house member who left the freedom caucus. The freedom caucus keeps moving the goal posts. When trump gave what they wanted they would then change what they wanted. They are not true leaders. They are mere gloryhounds.
“especially since Obamacare remains.”
And would have remained in a revised format anyway had they voted for the bill proposed.
The Freedom Caucus is not the problem here. A hastily crafted and very bad bill, which the president supported, is the problem.
Go back and do it right and get the membership on board in the process.
Don’t try to shove a bad bill up everyone’s butt and tell them to like it “or else”.
If necessary, push individual legislation defunding PP, allowing work requirements for Medicaid, implementing medical savings accounts, etc.
The Freedom Caucus, being comprised of liberty seeking Representatives does not have, nor the apparatus, to develop a “plan.” But, they do have separate, independent Representatives who share ideas and beliefs. As far as a plan, you might remember that Representative Jordan (a legendary Champion wrestler in his college days) knows where he stands, and a bit about strategy of winning in the endgame, has actually submitted/filed a Bill before the AHCA was filed. It hasn’t been assigned to a committee as it is the scourge of RINOs and the GOPe. Oh, it is the same Bill that repealed Obamacare and was overwhelmingly passed by both the House and Senate in 2015.
There’s your plan. Support it. It repeals Obamacare, and doesn’t attempt to maintain the status quo ante in a smaller version. Frankly, I don’t see Jordan’s Bill being moved until a Discharge Petition is exercised in order to bypass the committee structure and place it on the floor. I believe Jordan said it best this morning (I paraphrase) that the HFC saved Trump from embarrassment and failure by refusing to support a Bill that only 17% of Americans did. It’s time for Trump to understand he is not King. He is quickly becoming the Swamp Creature, looming larger than any other creature in the swamp. He doesn’t want to drain it (he never did), he wants to be the King.
Sadness always comes to me when a person is not true to their words. President Trump is making my sadness continue to grow. Oh, why didn’t the President have a plan? He married that of the GOPe. Did he check is reasoning powers on the porch of the White House on Inauguration Day?
Gwjack
Bingo. What is their deal, with keeping Ryan?
The Caucus has close to nothing in common with Ryan, but they propped him up and stuck him in their own big chair, as Speaker of the House.
The thanks they get is more of that damn Ryan math, manifested in a Health Care bill that hurt veterans, raised premiums on working class Trump voters, and which was shockingly short on anything conservative.
Instead of sending the *most* conservative bill over to the Senate to desecrate, he put together the *least* conservative bill (to make it easier for the Senate to bury conservative influence altogether.
Trump, in the end, I think could not have signed off on such a rag of a bill. Never would Trump justify veterans being funneled into Medicaid! He would not, and could not, have signed off on it.
The GOP, the ‘Rats, and the Media are thwarting Trump at every turn yet he chooses to slam conservative Republicans.
Not “winning.”
Great and appropriate Thatcher quote!
Republicans are pathetic when it comes to leveraging events and waves to favor Freedom.
If Trump was more Reagan/Thatcher-like, perhaps he'd leverage this particular situation by coming out now, after the beating, and humbly say:
"Look, America, the Dems are having a civil war, the Republicans own both the branches and levels of govt right now and still can't agree on things.
How about we all try something original but new: let's stop (re)fighting these issues like HC in DC every cycle. Let's move these decisions closer to home where concerned citizens have much, much greater say in the outcome of legislation. At the state level or below. "
The absolute best way for the most people to achieve the greatest satisfaction from public policy is for as many decisions as feasible to be made at the lowest level possible.
In other words: DON'T COMPROMISE, DE-CENTRALIZE!
“So for you people out there that are ‘grabbing your pearls’ and ‘fainting on your sofas’ get some back bone, and research these people and then you will find that they are only in this for THEMSELVES!!! They could care less about us, America and don’t want their gravey trains to stop!!!”
I’d like to know the origin of the tiresome pearl-clutching charge that is hurled every time somebody disagrees with a policy that the RINOs or Trump pushes.
Looking forward to your research about the “gravey (sic) trains” the supporters of RYANcare are riding.
We’re pretty much in agreement on this whole thing.
The HFC should come to some form of agreement to give Trump what he wants, and hang it on him entirely. He seems willing to carry the ball.
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