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This is how much it costs ‘Meals on Wheels’ to feed one elderly person for a year
Market Watch ^ | Mar. 19, 2017 | Quentin Fottrell

Posted on 03/20/2017 6:25:47 PM PDT by bgill

The administration’s proposed cuts target the Department of Housing and Urban Development and call for the elimination of the $3 billion Community Development Block Grant, which helps fund programs including Meals on Wheels, which deliver food (and human interaction) to elderly, disabled and poor recipients. “The federal government has spent over $150 billion on this block grant since its inception in 1974, but the program is not well-targeted to the poorest populations and has not demonstrated results,”

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The annual meal cost is $2,765 for 250 days

Since the program is mainly run by volunteers but it's still costing a whopping $11.06 per meal, well, folks, I think we know what the problem is. Somebody/s at the national government level is getting a nice big kickback. That $ amount feeds me 3 meals/day for two days. It'd be cheaper to deliver Kentucky Fried Chicken $5 lunches. Or Burger King 2 cheeseburgers/fries/drink for $3.29.

At the end of the article, it mentions the Headstart Program may be cut back. Good. It's nothing but a babysitting program for the EBT crowd.

1 posted on 03/20/2017 6:25:47 PM PDT by bgill
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To: bgill

The MSMLSD will yell that Trump is starving grandma.


2 posted on 03/20/2017 6:27:01 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Ambition Without Talent Is Sad, Talent Without Ambition Is Worse)
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To: SkyDancer

Until recent days, grandma was provided for by her kin.


3 posted on 03/20/2017 6:28:27 PM PDT by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: bgill
I have had friends on Meals on Wheels, part of the problem is that they are not made for elderly people who are usually on a restricted diet. Yet that is the majority of their customer base.

And you are right, at that price it is way overpriced for what they get.

4 posted on 03/20/2017 6:30:26 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: SkyDancer

“The MSMLSD will yell that Trump is starving grandma”

They already have.


5 posted on 03/20/2017 6:30:26 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (MAGA!!!)
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To: bgill

Yep and we did. We also had her set up with survival foods in case she was snowed or weathered in.


6 posted on 03/20/2017 6:31:17 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Ambition Without Talent Is Sad, Talent Without Ambition Is Worse)
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To: bgill

“The annual meal cost is $2,765 for 250 days

Since the program is mainly run by volunteers but it’s still costing a whopping $11.06 per meal”

I think your math is off? $11.06 per day is not bad, but still no excuse for the federal govt to be funding it.


7 posted on 03/20/2017 6:32:26 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: bgill

I have a relative that has been on it before..she had to pay for her meal. I can’t remember how much but something like $5.00. She is not at poverty level and could afford it. Just disabled.

She got it in her head she didn’t want it anymore. Something about they forgot her drinks or didn’t bring her the right kind or something.

I see a value in this service. It does help people.


8 posted on 03/20/2017 6:32:33 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: bgill
At the end of the article, it mentions the Headstart Program may be cut back. Good. It's nothing but a babysitting program for the EBT crowd.

Pin a leftist down and they will admit that is the reason for it - to separate the kids from the parents of "those people".

9 posted on 03/20/2017 6:32:58 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity - Pres. Eisenhower)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

I remember back when GWB wanted to let folks take ten percent of what they paid into SS to invest in government approved stocks in order to increase the amount of money they could receive on retirement. The Democrats and the MSNLSD bunch went ballistic and showed cartoons of Republicans pushing grandma down the stairs in her wheelchair.


10 posted on 03/20/2017 6:33:48 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Ambition Without Talent Is Sad, Talent Without Ambition Is Worse)
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To: bgill

Well Aunt Jemima has no kids because she aborted them.


11 posted on 03/20/2017 6:37:11 PM PDT by Newbomb Turk (Hey Newbomb, where's your brothers ElCamino ?)
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To: bgill

Meals-on0-Wheels was originally started for shut-ins...disabled people who couldn’t get out to a soup kitchen program or cook their own meals at home...

then all sorts got in on the act...

Its free so lazy well abled people took advantage of it...and got the full food stamps as well...

plus if they didn’t like what was sent to them, they just fed it to the cat or dog...

there needs to be proof the people is totally disabled and unable to cook for themselves again...

and the cost needs to come out of their food stamps...

Food stamps need to be for only those who are truly needy and the EBT cards need to go...

I know old people who are on SS who get less than $20 a month in food stamps...and no MOW...


12 posted on 03/20/2017 6:37:11 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: bgill

Just waiting for the sob sister stories. If any senior is mal nourished for any reason, it will be attempted murder by Trump.

It doesn’t matter to the mainstream media that we are impoverishing our future generations.


13 posted on 03/20/2017 6:37:33 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Parroting fake news is highly profitable for some.)
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To: bgill

I read that the federal grant to Meals on Wheels only accounts for 3.3% of their budget.


14 posted on 03/20/2017 6:38:24 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Conservatives love America for what it is. Liberals hate America for the same reason.)
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To: bgill

Yep.If you have a grandparent in need and do nothing to help provide for them-you’re not much of a human being.


15 posted on 03/20/2017 6:40:01 PM PDT by Farmer Dean ("Do you want me to shoot,I'm rested.")
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To: SkyDancer

Lefties don’t think ahead because they expect US to pay for all of their needs.

My Dad was a wonderful and very smart man. After he was gone, there was great plenty to take care of Mom until she passed.

And enough left for his children and grandchildren to have a stake to build on.

A true conservative, through and through.


16 posted on 03/20/2017 6:40:50 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (MAGA!!!)
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To: bgill

Thanks for the info bgill, we had a next door neighbor who passed two years ago who received meals on wheels. The wife and I visited often and helped where we could, she would often show us her meals that were delivered. They usually consisted of a piece of chicken, a scoop of pintos and greens and a piece of cornbread. You’re right the money is going somewhere!


17 posted on 03/20/2017 6:43:57 PM PDT by Arkansas Tider (Army EOD (Ret))
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Right. That’s what I read yesterday too. Just 3.3% of the MOW budget comes from the Feds. It won’t affect MOW.


18 posted on 03/20/2017 6:44:55 PM PDT by Boomer (The modern day leftist dems are the party of criminally insane propagandists.)
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To: bgill

...Until recent days, grandma was provided for by her kin....

Meals on Wheels notwithstanding, any nation that doesn’t honor the contributions from and wisdom of its elderly and murders it’s babies is heading for destruction.


19 posted on 03/20/2017 6:48:23 PM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not tired of Winning)
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To: SecAmndmt

My math is fine. Most of our homemade full dinners (meat and two sides) run about $2.50. Add in lighter breakfasts and lunch for $5/day. Yes, I’ve posted priced out meals here many times. If Burger King and KFC can do it for much less with $15/hr burger flippers, then the government with volunteers can certainly do a better job.

School lunches, for those parents who actually pay full price, run about $2.50.


20 posted on 03/20/2017 6:48:32 PM PDT by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

If the balloon should go up (as pappy sez) the liberals will form committees to go around in the neighborhood to see who’s been putting away food for emergencies (read hording) and demand they fork it over for the common good. Only thing is where my folks live (up in the mountains), they may drive up there but they’re walking to the nearest phone which is six miles away to call a tow truck . Talk was awhile back about these same idiots wanting to go to homes to ensure your firearms are secured from kids and people breaking in to steal them .... LOL.


21 posted on 03/20/2017 6:49:36 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Ambition Without Talent Is Sad, Talent Without Ambition Is Worse)
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To: RummyChick

I used to have clients who learned job training there so saw behind the scenes. Yes, it does help people. But it isn’t being run properly. Lots of scamming.


22 posted on 03/20/2017 6:53:05 PM PDT by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: bgill

Wasn’t questioning any of that...but I don’t understand how ~$2700/250 days works out to ~$11 per meal. Is there only one meal provided per day?

Ultimately, my gripe is not with the cost of the meals, but rather that the feds are providing meals at all. Should be provided 100% by private donations/charity, with perhaps some state involvement to assist in organization.


23 posted on 03/20/2017 6:54:18 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: Arkansas Tider

That’s the same type meals (nearly always greens and beans) as in Texas.


24 posted on 03/20/2017 6:58:06 PM PDT by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: SecAmndmt

It depends on the service. For example, some provide one hot lunch and then an optional cold supper.

My relative is mentally disabled. So once she got it in her head that they were out to get her...we had to try other things because she has trouble cooking for herself. Some areas have Senior Centers where you can go eat for a suggested pay.

You can get a bus service in some areas that will come to your door if you are disabled and take you where you want to go.


25 posted on 03/20/2017 7:07:51 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: SecAmndmt

Yes, just one meal per day. Monday through Friday. You’re on your own for the weekend. Usually a meat, two veggies and bread in a Styrofoam covered meal tray. Sometimes a piece of cake or cobbler. Sometimes unsweetened tea or a little school sized milk carton. As was posted above, lots of greens and beans.

Many come into the facilities to eat. Their guests eat for free, too.


26 posted on 03/20/2017 7:08:52 PM PDT by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

I’m using M-O-W and love it. The meals I get are for a regular diet and are great. I do have a gripe though.
I think it may take as many as one or two people to prepare the meals and they could probably do it with just one.
Hell any good cook could prepare a few hundred meals and have them ready for delivery by noon.

Then the meals just walk themselves to a car and with another volunteer driving it 35 miles to my house, all the
while keeping it warm, it is handed to me by a really nice guy.

I was surprised that the cost per meal is so much. NOT </Sarcasm


27 posted on 03/20/2017 7:09:10 PM PDT by rw4site (Little men want Big Government!)
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To: Sasparilla

“Meals on Wheels notwithstanding, any nation that doesn’t honor the contributions from and wisdom of its elderly and murders it’s babies is heading for destruction.”

That about sums it up right there.

Post of the day. Please tell that to all the “conservatives” defending their precious pro-abortion porn star on other threads.


28 posted on 03/20/2017 7:14:30 PM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Proud to be an Infidel & a deplorable.)
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To: rw4site

Here is a sample menu.I don’t know if this is an either/or or if they are providing both. The second one looks like it might be the cold supper one

https://feedmore.org/images/uploads/march_2017_MAIN.pdf

https://feedmore.org/meals-on-wheels/meals-on-wheels-services/additional-services/

https://feedmore.org/images/uploads/march_2017final.pdf


29 posted on 03/20/2017 7:15:29 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

San Diego
http://www.meals-on-wheels.org/meals

MEAL PLANS

Standard: Lunch and dinner, plus beverage
Lunch only with beverage
Dinner only with roll and beverage
Five or seven day packs available (frozen)
Additional meals or beverages upon request
Note: Dinner may be delivered hot and ready-to-eat or frozen. A client may receive meals on a short-term basis (such as when recovering from illness or surgery), or indefinitely.

Lunch and dinner, plus beverage – $7.00 per day
Lunch only, plus beverage – $4.00 per day
Dinner only with roll and beverage – $4.00
Extra beverage .50 cents each


30 posted on 03/20/2017 7:17:55 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

San Diego menu
http://www.meals-on-wheels.org/months-menu


31 posted on 03/20/2017 7:19:36 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: bgill

https://www.fancyfeast.com/


32 posted on 03/20/2017 7:27:08 PM PDT by piasa
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To: piasa

Tuna Primavera With Garden Veggies & Greens In A Classic Sauce


33 posted on 03/20/2017 7:31:26 PM PDT by piasa
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To: bgill
The money sent into neighborhoods to assist the “needy” is astronomical. Think about the numerous private organizations, churches, corporations, and individuals that contribute to those who require assistance; then add all the government agencies with all the redundancy emanating from the stupid laws our congress enacts. The dollars are mind-boggling, yet we are made to feel guilty because we aren't doing enough. The worst culprit is the “church.” Way over the top regarding this issue. Has anyone ever attempted a study of the total dollars spent?
34 posted on 03/20/2017 7:32:35 PM PDT by wmont2 (In times of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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To: piasa

24 3 oz portions for less than 15 bucks...


35 posted on 03/20/2017 7:32:50 PM PDT by piasa
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To: bgill

Are fuel costs for the delivery included in the $11 per day?


36 posted on 03/20/2017 7:35:39 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: bgill

Believe it or not, my local 99 cents store has an abundance of food. I have bought almonds, grapes, broccoli, bagels, English muffins, cheese, cauliflower, tomatoes, beans, Healthy Choice soup, pasta, melons, mushrooms, potatoes, Tuna (make sure not from China), cake mix, popcorn, tortillas, dog treats, etc. (They have chicken and some meat but I don’t eat those things since 1991)

I shop at lot a Vons and a local WalMart grocery store, but the 99 cents store is a 20-min walk. I both exercise and save money.

If they do it right, they could easy feed people for half or less of the cost of the meals.


37 posted on 03/20/2017 7:36:47 PM PDT by doug from upland (Hey, traitor Democrats. I have a tree. I'm sure another FReeper has a rope.)
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To: bgill

We know a couple who receive MOWs and live in Oregon. They get one meal a day (dinner) that has to be reheated in the microwave (except for salad, of course). On Friday they get frozen meals for Saturday and Sunday.

We don’t know anyone that get MOWs in AZ. Maybe each state is different?


38 posted on 03/20/2017 7:44:52 PM PDT by azishot (I'm not arguing. I'm just explaining why I'm right.)
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To: bgill

OK, I wasn’t aware.

That is offly expensive for that kind of meal - even if it were all organic!


39 posted on 03/20/2017 7:46:34 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: bgill

The military is only allowed $7 per meal.


40 posted on 03/20/2017 7:46:58 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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Re the $11.06 per day cost ... that may be for two meals. The three people I know who received meals on wheels all got two meals a day. I know (from fundraising efforts) that the MOW organization that served my MIL had a paid head cook, and volunteer drivers received a modest per mile reimbursement for gas. My MIL paid weekly for her meals - I think about $6/day. I think there’s a sliding scale based on income.


41 posted on 03/20/2017 8:09:11 PM PDT by Kipp
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To: rw4site
Your attempt at sarcasm is noted.

You might try asking for fish in your next meal. I hear it is brain food.

42 posted on 03/20/2017 8:14:00 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: SkyDancer

Yeah, but ALL Gubmint employees—including Congress critters—get to have a Thrift Savings Plan(TSP) account in addition to SocSec.
The TSP account is basically a way to add to their retirement through investment’s in low to high risk stocks.
So their “outrage” is purely for show!


43 posted on 03/20/2017 8:18:08 PM PDT by milagro (There is no peace in appeasement!)
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To: Rebelbase

No. That’s on the volunteers.


44 posted on 03/20/2017 8:20:23 PM PDT by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: RummyChick

Your links:

Richmond, VA - Meals for pets. You’ve GOT to be kidding... And a free microwave and box fan.

San Diego, CA - There’s a $35 fee just to sign up and $4 per meal. Add that to the $11.06/meal so meals are costing over $15. They must be feeding Michelle Obama.


45 posted on 03/20/2017 8:34:37 PM PDT by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Kipp

The article states the $11.06 is “per meal.”


46 posted on 03/20/2017 8:36:35 PM PDT by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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Until recent days, grandma was provided for by her kin.

The people who receive those meals have to pay for those meals and they cost more than a trip to Burger King.

Plus, volunteers pass them out, which means they use their own gasoline.

So, it sounds like somebody is making a killing if it has cost the American people 150 BILLION since 1974.

47 posted on 03/20/2017 8:37:59 PM PDT by Slyfox (Where's Reagan when we need him? Look in the mirror - the spirit of The Gipper lives within you.)
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To: SecAmndmt

I think everyone is missing three central points.

1. This Meals on Wheels program is not a federal or state run program. It is purely a private volunteer situation. As far as I can see, you can’t find anyone in charge at the national or state level. When you do find leadership, it’s purely at the local level.

2. This massive grant given out to the states...allows them to parcel it up and break it down to different organizations. You could have a Meals on Wheels operation in a city of 100,000 getting $100,000 a year for their grant, and in another state....similar sized city which gets $150,000. It’s only because each wrote up their requirement and asked for a particular amount. There is no math to show any equalization.

3. There is no regulations existing within any state or federal gov’t that I know of over Meals on Wheels. Shocking in a way....an operation has managed to grow and be this sized and totally avoid stupid regulations.

Finally, just an observation. Years ago in my military years, I had to sit in a meeting where the wing commander had some episode brew up with the base chow hall. The budget for the chow hall at the time came out to roughly $3.50 a day for each barracks resident. The chow hall had free labor, and all the food bought was tax-free...so this was all very similar in nature to Meals on Wheels. To make it through the last three months of a budget period, the chow hall needed another $100,000 out of thin air to cover their costs. Wing commander didn’t have the money. So they fed everyone for lunch and dinner for that 90-day period mostly chicken. It reached a point half-way through this period that people just stopped going to the chow-hall and bought lunch or dinner out of their own pocket.


48 posted on 03/20/2017 8:43:00 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

Thanks for the great info.

Thank you for your service.


49 posted on 03/20/2017 8:52:52 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: RummyChick

Well, well. Just checked on the suburbs of uber liberal Austin, TX and read on their MOW site that they couldn’t reach half their goal for donated canned soup. Typical. They’ll raise millions to save the Barton Springs Salamander and Univ of TX students bought giant sex toys to protest campus carry but they can’t give a can of soup to grandpa.


50 posted on 03/20/2017 9:07:57 PM PDT by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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