Skip to comments.Trump Winery in Virginia seeks more foreign workers
Posted on 03/20/2017 3:53:23 PM PDT by artichokegrower
As President Donald Trump touts job creation for Americans as a top priority, his son's Virginia winery is seeking permission to hire foreign workers to cultivate its grapes.
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....and what are the labor arrangements at the Pelosi Winery in the Napa Valley?
Are all of the workers at the Napa Winery legally documented?
I disagree. They aren’t paying enough to get American applicants.
The only good thing I can say about it is they are hiring legally and only 29 people.
Isn’t here an ICE hotline just for these questions? ;)
Get rid of welfare and that will change.
H2-A labor pencils out to $20 per hour. I’m paying tractor drivers $26 per hour, plus safety bonus, plus acre bonus, plus end of year bonus, plus 100% medical insurance for employee with 50% for dependents, plus paid sick leave. I think you folks need to pay more for your vegetables.
What you mean is that they won't come out to the farm and work for $10.72 an hour. Answer is to pay more.
That’s a huge factor. They pay a livable wage and they’ll get employees. What they’re paying illegals are chump change, like wages from the 1990s. This has been the problem all along with thousands of unscrupulous greedy employers as the government stood by winking and nodding as they played right into their new world order globalist plans.
Agreed. Apparently the market can take a leap if it means raising wages to attract American workers.
My dad was not too proud to work in the fields. Was grateful to get the work. In fact, our entire family including grandma, aunt, uncle, cousins, mom, dad and us kids often turned out to pick cotton, cut grapes etc. Sheila’s dad worked full time tending orchards his entire life.
Maybe the winery needs to offer a little more in wages.
Agreed. Let’s go back to the days when only the widowed or disabled or other such persons in clearly understandable need were permitted to get public assistance. In my country, it has only been since the mid 1960s that able bodied people were permitted to get welfare.
No it does not. Pencil in taxes and that 20 per hour is what?
Amen. We should be proud to purchase American grown quality produce.
Another legacy of Trudeau the First.
Don’t pay FICA to H2-A. The $20 per hour includes wages plus transportation plus room and board.
This reporter should investigate the foreign workers at Nancy Pelosi’s vineyards.
so how much an hour for labor only ?
I think we need to grow our own.
So it begs the questioning, they're raking in huge amounts of cash for food, so why can't these growers simply pay a livable wage to legitimate citizens?
I’d bet lunch that Nancy’s hubby hires a custom farming outfit to do the field work.
Nothing like putting a little “legal” distance between the property owner and the hired labor.
$12.57 per hour tax free.
Unless you want a temporary job and live like a Gypsy you will not take these jobs.
In these kinds of jobs, I absolutely believe it is not possible to employ Americans on any kind of meaningful basis.
Probably half the jobs in America are now part time.
Exactly. H2As have been used for decades.
My senior tractor driver is making $69,090.90 this year. Plus full medical plus, an HSA plus a 401K. How you doing?
I think you folks need to pay more for your vegetables.
True, but these jobs are temporary and not part time. Big difference.
Was delighted to see a bottle of Trump wine in the Roanoke Krogers the other other day, and to learn the grapes are harvested right here near the GW Forest. (Visiting family in VA).
Was not delighted with the $24 price, on sale from $26.
Now to learn they’re paying cheap foreign labor wages?
Why so ‘spensive?
That would depend on the wages being offered wouldn't it?
There is no justification to hire foreigners to do labor in the USA with 100 million out of the work force. this is corruption and it needs to stop.
I’m ok with paying more for back-to-basics produce, flour, etc., especially if that means decent jobs for Americans. I know that the claims of lettuce going to five bucks a head and staying there are lies.
You wouldn’t hire an American even if one wanted a job. You wouldn’t go against the Mexican mafia. I hope you choke on your artichokes.
Please. There’s two, maybe three levels between the field and the grocery cart. And a lot of it is union labor. In California, threats of strikes at Safeway used to be a regular thing.
Without the union labor, vegetables are 1/3 or 1/2 less at Chinese and Indian grocery stores.
These vineyard in Virginia don’t even advertise for workers. They got their Cheap Labor Express scheme and they are sticking to it.
The Cheap Labor Express depends on welfare to hold wages down. The tax payer is subsidizing Mr. Growers “cheap” labor.
I think we all need to know what the costs of running a farm are, including legitimate labor costs. Pricing for farm products should be in line with what it costs to produce the product for sale. I’m sure there are processing and marketing costs too. All costs of a product should be reflected in price paid by the consumer.
You're paying for the Trump name.
Is he Mexican?
I’ve got two USMC vets working for me. Anyhow have you ever signed the front of a paycheck? Do you have any idea what your’re talking about?
Those USMC guys are they ethnic Mexican/latino?
They are willing to get paid $20, but work? Not so much.
You have obviously never been exposed to professional farm laborers.
Getting in these crops require hard work in very short periods of time at a price that makes economic sense.
The Anti American bigots on this thread can KMA.
It doesn’t matter if other employers legally hire them. The media will act as if the Trumps are the only one’s hire those folks and imply Trump lied about not wanting to hire foreigners.
Maybe it’s time to reform our prison system and use low risk inmates for those willing to work the fields for reduced sentences. More automation maybe?
That actually came from PET’s immediate predecessor as Prime Minister, Lester Pearson. The Canada Assistance Plan Act of 1966 basically centralized social welfare policy (a year earlier, federal Medicare or socialized medicine was created). Under the Act, the federal government imposed it’s own standards for welfare policy on the provinces (for example, British Columbia could no longer impose residency requirements for recipients and Quebec’s long standing local traditions on social welfare were also imposed on). Most significantly, the Act eliminated the specific types of persons who could collect public assistance (most jurisdictions only allowed the blind, the widowed, abandoned mothers, etc to collect) and that welfare was made that much more generous (in many cases it just used to be coupons for food and clothing).
This legislation had many unfortunate consequences. The separatist Parti Quebecois was created in 1968 and that undoubtedly was partly in reaction to the big intrusions on social policy, which had of course been the domain of the provinces (especially Quebec) since Confederation in 1867. It has also been said that making welfare far more easier to get had that sort of an adverse impact on families when coupled with the divorce laws (specifically the creation of no fault divorce) being made more permissive and this was authored by Trudeau the First when he was our Justice Minister in 1967.
These heroes of agriculture don’t even try to get locals to work for them. It’s a racket. I live 5 miles from a huge vineyard in VA and they never advertise for workers and somehow it all gets picked.
I wasn't aware that the University of Virginia and your local high schools would let their students skip class for 2-3 weeks to pick fruit for 80 hours a week.
50% of RNs in NC make 58k or less per year many with Bachelor Degrees. Do you really think someone who tends grapes should earn within about 7 dollars an hour of an RN?
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