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Oops! CNN accidentally confirms story that Brit intell passed along Trump (Trunc.)
The American Thinker ^ | 03/20/17 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 03/20/2017 5:55:37 AM PDT by pgkdan

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To: Tennessean4Bush

Hilarious because as soon as he got the answer he didn’t want the host started minimizing the response.


21 posted on 03/20/2017 7:08:29 AM PDT by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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To: pgkdan

.... While it is an interesting read, unfortunately it is still just a second hand source. There has to be absolute proof for people to finally stand up and notice!


22 posted on 03/20/2017 7:12:17 AM PDT by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: pgkdan

If one agency does it, all others know about it.

Fire them all...................


23 posted on 03/20/2017 7:27:11 AM PDT by Red Badger (Ending a sentence with a preposition is nothing to be afraid of........)
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To: silverleaf

Slip of the tongue inside the cheek..................


24 posted on 03/20/2017 7:28:10 AM PDT by Red Badger (Ending a sentence with a preposition is nothing to be afraid of........)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Not just for Clapper. The UK is gonna be in for a world of hurt if they’ve been a party to this..


25 posted on 03/20/2017 7:33:11 AM PDT by mewzilla (I'll vote for the first guy who promises to mail in his SOTU addresses.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

so Zero was the poster child for hear no evil, see no evil...

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I guess that’s why anything he did “know” or learned about, he heard on the news. /sarc


26 posted on 03/20/2017 7:34:43 AM PDT by Qiviut (Obama's Legacy in two words: DONALD TRUMP)
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To: for-q-clinton

Exactly!


27 posted on 03/20/2017 7:46:47 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: for-q-clinton

But Obama issued an order allowing all the CIA information to be disseminated across 16 different intelligence agencies in order to preserve any transcripts or dossiers on Trump.

Never was the case during the length of his presidency.
Just as he was leaving.


28 posted on 03/20/2017 7:55:35 AM PDT by Auslander154 (Why not lock her up? HC tried to lock up Billy Dale)
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To: pgkdan; Whenifhow; LucyT; hoosiermama

pgkdan wrote:

“Here is the rush transcript:

STELTER: “Let me ask you about this thing.”
JOHNSON: “Sure.”
STELTER: “So my sense is that on Monday, Napolitano says this on TV, he says he has Intel sources who believe this is true. You’re saying you were one of those sources, but you didn’t know Napolitano was going to use you like that?”

JOHNSON: “What happened was I communicated, when Donald Trump tweeted what he did Saturday two weeks ago, the next day I was interviewed on Russia today. I had known about the fact that the British, through ghcq were information back channel, this was not at the behest of Barack Obama, let’s be clear about that. But it was done with the full knowledge of people like John Brennan and Jake clapper. Two people I flow within the intelligence community in January, they were very concerned about this because they saw it as an unfair meddling in the politics, but it was a way to get around the issue of American intelligence agencies not collecting.”
STELTER: “To be clear, you have this secondhand? So you didn’t get this information directly, you’re hearing from others.
JOHNSON: “I’m hearing it from people who are in a position to know, that’s correct.”

Not conclusive but pretty interesting...”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3536327/posts?page=3#3

Thanks for the info!

Ping to CNN admitting it was GCHQ that surveilled President Trump!


29 posted on 03/20/2017 8:04:34 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: pgkdan

First of two parts and maybe more on the 7+ decades long history of the UK’s spying on our people and us spying on their people.

UKUSA Agreement
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The UKUSA Community: Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States

The United Kingdom – United States of America Agreement (UKUSA, /;/ew-koo-sah)[1][2] is a multilateral agreement for cooperation in signals intelligence between Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States. The alliance of intelligence operations is also known as the Five Eyes.[3][4][5][6][7]

In classification markings this is abbreviated as FVEY, with the individual countries being abbreviated as AUS, CAN, NZL, GBR, and USA, respectively.[8]

Emerging from an informal agreement related to the 1941 Atlantic Charter, the secret treaty was renewed with the passage of the 1943 BRUSA Agreement, before being officially enacted on 5 March 1946 by the United Kingdom and the United States. In the following years, it was extended to encompass Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. Other countries, known as “third parties”, such as West Germany, the Philippines, and several Nordic countries also joined the UKUSA community.[9][10]

Much of the sharing of information is performed via the ultra-sensitive STONEGHOST network, which has been claimed to contain “some of the Western world’s most closely guarded secrets”.[11]

Besides laying down rules for intelligence sharing, the agreement formalized and cemented the “Special Relationship” between the UK and the USA.[12][13]

Due to its status as a secret treaty, its existence was not known to the Prime Minister of Australia until 1973,[14] and it was not disclosed to the public until 2005.

[13] On 25 June 2010, for the first time in history, the full text of the agreement was publicly released by the United Kingdom and the United States, and can now be viewed online.[9][15] Shortly after its release, the seven-page UKUSA Agreement was recognized by Time magazine as one of the Cold War’s most important documents, with immense historical significance.[13]
The global surveillance disclosure by Edward Snowden has shown that the intelligence-sharing activities between the First World allies of the Cold War are rapidly shifting into the digital realm of the Internet.[16][17][18]

Due to its status as a secret treaty, its existence was not known to the Prime Minister of Australia until 1973,[14] and it was not disclosed to the public until 2005.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UKUSA_Agreement#Origins_.281940s.E2.80.931950s.29


30 posted on 03/20/2017 8:37:10 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Remember during Trump Tower Spydgate, there were No American fingerprints; just Obama's...!!!!:))
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To: WildHighlander57

I have concluded the GCHQ absolutely did surveillance on the Trump campaign. We now also know that in 2010 under obozo the 15 Trump locations were bugged including Trump Tower and HIS FAMILY!! We have an absolute bugging of Mike FLYNN and a felony leak of that transcript. We have absolute proof the Senator Jeff Sessions OFFICE was bugged after the election!! That was leaked!! These are orchestrated FELONIES by obozo!!


31 posted on 03/20/2017 8:37:28 AM PDT by WENDLE (DEFEAT RINOCARE!!!)
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To: pgkdan

Part two of ??? parts history of our agreement where the Brits spied on our people and we spied on their people for 7+ decades. Unlike PRISM, the MUSCULAR program requires no (FISA or other type of) warrants.

“It couldn’t possibly be true, because that is not how our system works,” Pelosi said during a Christian Science Monitor breakfast in Washington.

“We do not investigate, through a FISA court, Americans — here or abroad.”

Well, Nancy how about this: Part two of ??? parts history of our agreement where the Brits spied on our people and we spied on their people for 7+ decades. Unlike PRISM, the MUSCULAR program requires no (FISA or other type of) warrants.

MUSCULAR (surveillance program)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

MUSCULAR (DS-200B), located in the United Kingdom,[1] is the name of a surveillance programme jointly operated by Britain’s Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) and the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) that was revealed by documents which were released by Edward Snowden and interviews with knowledgeable officials.[2] GCHQ is the primary operator of the program.[1]

GCHQ and the National Security Agency have secretly broken into the main communications links that connect the data centers of Yahoo! and Google.[3]Substantive information about the program was made public at the end of October 2013.

Contents:

1 Overview
2 Operational details
3 Reactions and countermeasures
4 Gallery
5 See also
6 References
7 External links

Overview:

The programme is jointly run by:
– Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) (United Kingdom)
– U.S. National Security Agency (NSA)

MUSCULAR is one of at least four other similar programs that rely on a trusted 2nd party, programs which together are known as WINDSTOP.

In a 30-day period from December 2012 to January 2013, MUSCULAR was responsible for collecting 181 million records. It was however dwarfed by another WINDSTOP program known (insofar) only by its code DS-300 and codename INCENSER, which collected over 14 billion records in the same period.[4]
Operational details:

According to the leaked document the NSA’s acquisitions directorate sends millions of records every day from internal Yahoo! and Google networks to data warehouses at the agency’s headquarters at Fort Meade, Maryland.

The programme operates via an access point known as DS-200B, which is outside the United States, and it relies on an unnamed telecommunications operator to provide secret access for the NSA and the GCHQ.[3]

According to the Washington Post, the MUSCULAR program collects more than twice as many data points (“selectors” in NSA jargon) compared to the better known PRISM.[2]

Unlike PRISM, the MUSCULAR program requires no (FISA or other type of) warrants.

Because of the huge amount of data involved, MUSCULAR has presented a special challenge to NSA’s Special Source Operations. For example, when Yahoo! decided to migrate a large amount of mailboxes between its data centers, the NSA’s PINWALE database (their primary analytical database for the Internet) was quickly overwhelmed with the data coming from MUSCULAR.[5]

Closely related programmes are called INCENSER and TURMOIL. TURMOIL, belonging to the NSA, is a system for processing the data collected from MUSCULAR.[1]

According to a post-it style note from the presentation, the exploitation relied on the fact that (at the time at least) data was transmitted unencrypted inside Google’s private cloud, with “Google Front End Servers” stripping and respectively adding back SSL from/to external connections.

According to the Washington Post: “Two engineers with close ties to Google exploded in profanity when they saw the drawing.” After the information about MUSCULAR was published by the press, Google announced that it was working on deploying encrypted communication between its datacenters.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUSCULAR_(surveillance_program)


32 posted on 03/20/2017 8:38:57 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Remember during Trump Tower Spydgate, there were No American fingerprints; just Obama's...!!!!:))
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To: Auslander154

Good point. And that’s where the conspiracy comes in.


33 posted on 03/20/2017 8:40:06 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: pgkdan

Whistleblower Tapes: Trump Wiretapped “A Zillion Times” By ‘The Hammer,’ Brennan’s and Clapper’s Secret Computer System* March 17, 2017

Whistleblower Tapes: Trump Wiretapped “A Zillion Times” By ‘The Hammer,’ Brennan’s and Clapper’s Secret Computer System: By Mary Fanning and Alan Jones

President Obama’s Director of National Intelligence (DNI) James Clapper and his Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) director John Brennan oversaw a secret supercomputer system known as “THE HAMMER,” according to former NSA/CIA contractor-turned whistleblower Dennis Montgomery.

Clapper and Brennan were using the supercomputer system to conduct illegal and unconstitutional government data harvesting and wiretapping.

THE HAMMER was installed on federal property in Fort Washington, Maryland at a complex which some speculate is a secret CIA and NSA operation operating at a US Naval facility.

President Trump’s allegation that the Obama Administration was wiretapping him is not only supported by Montgomery’s whistleblower revelations about Brennan’s and Clapper’s computer system THE HAMMER, but also by statements made this week by William Binney, a former NSA Technical Director of the World Geopolitical and Military Analysis Reporting Group, by former CIA and State Department official Larry Johnson, and by Montgomery’s attorney Larry Klayman.

Computer expert Dennis Montgomery developed software programs that could breach secure computer systems and collect massive amounts of data.

That system, THE HAMMER, according to the audio tapes, accessed the phone calls, emails and bank accounts of millions of ordinary Americans.

The tapes also reveal that the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance court (FISA), Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts, 156 other judges, members of Congress, and Donald J. Trump were targeted by the HAMMER.

One of the audio tapes made public by Federal Judge G. Murray Snow revealed that Brennan and Clapper particularly targeted and wiretapped Donald Trump a “zillion times.”

*https://youtu.be/qQcC7nivswc

http://theamericanreport.org/2017/03/17/whistleblower-tapes-trump-wiretapped-zillion-times-hammer-brennans-clappers-secret-computer-system/


34 posted on 03/20/2017 8:40:19 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Remember during Trump Tower Spydgate, there were No American fingerprints; just Obama's...!!!!:))
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To: pgkdan

Well, in the hearing this morning - which is currently on TV, several people said UK WAS NOT INVOLVED.

So, already .. right out of the box .. the left has tried to denounce the UK involvement.

The left continues to be unhinged. They are asking questions which have absolutely no relation to the hearing. I have to use the mute button to get through it.

And .. Schiff .. is weird - when he and Nunes were talking about the issues yesterday, Schiff just stared at Nunes the whole time Nunes was talking .. it was creepy.


35 posted on 03/20/2017 8:43:36 AM PDT by CyberAnt ("Peace Through Strength")
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To: mewzilla

“Not just for Clapper. The UK is gonna be in for a world of hurt if they’ve been a party to this..”

GCHQ boss Robert Hannigan quits for ‘personal reasons’ after just two days after (the you know what hit the fan)
www.telegraph.co.uk › News
Jan 23, 2017 - Robert Hannigan, the director of GCHQ, has resigned from his job as head of one of the three Government intelligence agencies after just two years. GCHQ would only say that Mr Hannigan had left his post for “personal reasons” and that he was not sacked or subject to disciplinary


36 posted on 03/20/2017 8:48:37 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Remember during Trump Tower Spydgate, there were No American fingerprints; just Obama's...!!!!:))
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To: KyCats

I tend to agree with you; Obama hated (literally) anything even remotely related to a Republican person, organization, etc.

And yes, I agree he liked to dabble in intel stuff .. but it usually exposed him when he came up with info he really shouldn’t have been talking about. It was okay he knew, but he was such a child about secrets, he often gave them away.


37 posted on 03/20/2017 8:49:47 AM PDT by CyberAnt ("Peace Through Strength")
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To: Grampa Dave
Meanwhile...

MI5 man to steer GCHQ as Trump wiretapping saga continues Jeremy 'easy to work with' Fleming is incoming

38 posted on 03/20/2017 8:53:36 AM PDT by mewzilla (I'll vote for the first guy who promises to mail in his SOTU addresses.)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Partisan politics and politicians are destroying America while trying to rule.


39 posted on 03/20/2017 8:54:33 AM PDT by Herman Ball
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Partisan politics and politicians are destroying America while trying to rule.


40 posted on 03/20/2017 8:54:38 AM PDT by Herman Ball
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