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Iraq then and now: Bush was right and Obama was wrong
americanthinker ^ | March 20, 2017 | Silvio Canto

Posted on 03/20/2017 4:56:11 AM PDT by MarvinStinson

This is the 13th anniversary of the start of the Iraq War II.

What if President George W. Bush had not invaded Iraq? I suggest this scenario:

1. Saddam Hussein would have become a bigger threat to the region. He had clearly come to the conclusion that the West would not stop him and was acting as such.

2. Iraq would have continued shooting at U.S. and UK planes enforcing UN resolutions. How many times do you allow someone to fire missiles at your aircraft?

3. What about Israel? We do know today that Iraq won't be attacking Israel or has WMDs to threaten its neighbors. We can thank President Bush for that.

Bush's critics need to answer one simple question: what if Bush had not invaded Iraq?

I have not heard anyone explain how the region would have been better if we had left Saddam in power.

Or, they say "knowing what we know now." They have to make a call based on what we knew then. What we knew then is that the twin towers had been brought down, Saddam Hussein was behaving very badly.

If Americans have learned anything since 9/11 is that when people say they intend to kill you please take them seriously.

The second question is: what if President Obama had left a force in Iraq in 2011 to protect our gains? This is a more relevant question and the Middle East is exhibit A of what our retreat accomplished.

For the moment, President Bush gets all of the criticism about Iraq and President Obama gets a free pass from a friendly media. Over time, it will change and Bush will get credit for leadership and Obama will be blamed for retreating and forcing his successor to have to go back in.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; bushwasright; bushwaswrong; georgewbush; gwb; iraq; marvinstinson; neocons; neoconservatives; nevertrump; obama; saddam; silviocanto; trump; w
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1 posted on 03/20/2017 4:56:11 AM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: MarvinStinson

I grow weary of “What if”. Obama was wrong and W was wrong - for different reasons. End of story


2 posted on 03/20/2017 4:59:22 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: MarvinStinson

Iraq was invaded to serve Saudi interests and their security, the nation so many of the 9/11 terrorists came from.

The Leftist critics always called Bush a “Texas oil man” but as I read some months back on the BBC website a Saudi official was claiming heavy investment in the oil industry in the USA.

Our deeply in debt nation needs the Saudi money, that underlies Iraq regardless of who was president.

Obama pulled troops out to look good with the anti-war Left while he kept them in Afghanistan.

He was ultimately forced to put them back in because of the Islamic State, a problem with Saudi Arabia’s name written on it since their jihadists entered Syria to try and take power away from Assad.


3 posted on 03/20/2017 5:04:48 AM PDT by Spiridon
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Bush was wrong thinking you could build a democracy in a Mooselimb country. He had won the war and it was stable when he left but Obama pulled out leaving a vacuum for ISIS.


4 posted on 03/20/2017 5:05:34 AM PDT by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Bush destabilized the ME by going after his daddy’s demons instead of finding bin laden


5 posted on 03/20/2017 5:07:02 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: MarvinStinson

Of course. Obama was or rather is wet behind his mega ears and never understood the mid east.

W did and continued to fight against Saddam’s war of agression


6 posted on 03/20/2017 5:10:15 AM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Hillary is Ameritrash, pass it on)
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To: MarvinStinson

Just needed a force of 20,000 to maintain order in 2008. The Community Agitator comes in and pulls out of Iraq. Brilliant! Then destabilizes Syria, Libya, Egypt, Turkey, rewards Iran, pulls out of Afghanistan, etc... Coincidence?


7 posted on 03/20/2017 5:10:45 AM PDT by petercooper (Why don't polls ever add up to 100%?)
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To: MarvinStinson
Bush took out the ONE man keeping Iraq from destroying itself and whose removal from power made it possible for ISIS to come about.

(drops mic)

8 posted on 03/20/2017 5:12:40 AM PDT by Ciaphas Cain (The choice to be stupid is not a conviction I am obligated to respect.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Well, Bush was wrong about Iraq, Obama was wrong about Syria and they both had the unwavering support of John McCain. Who, by the way, is still out there: http://www.unz.com/pbuchanan/is-mccain-hijacking-trumps-foreign-policy/


9 posted on 03/20/2017 5:16:05 AM PDT by Bogie
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Bush is a traitor #### who I CANT BELIEVE anyone here would be naive/insulting enough to post this garbage.

He slept with the sauds so much that i’m surprised he didn’t have their babies.

#### Iraw, i two cent dictatorship.

Saudi Arabia was protected from the DEFINITE involvement in 9/11.

Have donated 10s of billinons. TENS!!

3000 are dead because of Saudi Arabia.

The towers I worked in are gone.

You insult too many people to count by posting this

BULLSHIT.


10 posted on 03/20/2017 5:16:11 AM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: bray
Obama was wrong, bray wrote: Bush was wrong thinking you could build a democracy in a Mooselimb country with US libtard Communists calling it "IMPERIALISM" and describing Christian charity efforts in post-Saddam Iraq as "cultural invasion".

Next time ignore the critics who hate this nation and do what needs to be done. You win the battle, you get the land. We did not annex it nor intend to. If we are going to expend resources in the rebuilding then we get a say in how the money and manpower is used.

11 posted on 03/20/2017 5:18:18 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (patriots win, Communists and Socialist Just-Us Warriors lose)
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To: dp0622

Drivel...... unadulterated balderdasious drivel


12 posted on 03/20/2017 5:19:11 AM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Hillary is Ameritrash, pass it on)
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To: Ciaphas Cain

Saddam was funding global terrorism in Israel and elsewhere.


13 posted on 03/20/2017 5:19:13 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (patriots win, Communists and Socialist Just-Us Warriors lose)
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To: Spiridon
It's a damned, damned thing of horror when one realizes that what Michael Moore depicted in Fahrenheit 9/11 was more on-target than the vast majority of "conservative" pundits at the time.
14 posted on 03/20/2017 5:21:58 AM PDT by Ciaphas Cain (The choice to be stupid is not a conviction I am obligated to respect.)
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To: MarvinStinson

Iraq and Saddam’s removal served to destabilize the ME. Now look what we have, more chaos than before. You can’t bring democracy to those who don’t want it.


15 posted on 03/20/2017 5:23:05 AM PDT by DallasGal (When God provides you a path to happiness, don't turn your back on his grace and mercy)
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To: MarvinStinson
what if Bush had not invaded Iraq?

1. The 500 metric tons of yellow cake uranium that was sold to Canada would still be there.

2. The chemical weapons used by Syria would still be in Iraq.

16 posted on 03/20/2017 5:23:22 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (My once 6 pack abs are now a keg......)
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To: bert

Yes, the article and any idiot who believes it is drivel, unadulterated.


17 posted on 03/20/2017 5:25:03 AM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: MarvinStinson

I would trade Saddam Hussein being the leader of Iraq again for the return of the nearly 4,500 dead U.S. soldiers and 1.7 trillion spent on that war, to be frank.


18 posted on 03/20/2017 5:25:26 AM PDT by Trump20162020
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To: dp0622

CHEERS!!!


19 posted on 03/20/2017 5:30:00 AM PDT by Bogie
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To: MarvinStinson
Bush was a pimp who sold our young men and woman to die for the Saudis empire expansionist goals. Obama deceptively switched sides , colluding with Iran to destabilize the region , funding terrorist activities and handing hoards of money over as a traitor to the US.. Both had no interest in leading or helping the people who elected them or the rest of the nation they served, they served only their own selfish motives, and with the case of obama, his loathing of traditional rural Americana.
20 posted on 03/20/2017 5:32:32 AM PDT by seastay
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