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What would the U.S. look like without the EPA?
CBS "News" ^ | March 15, 2017 | By MICHAEL DHAR

Posted on 03/15/2017 2:08:56 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Acid rain devouring New England forests. Homes built on toxic sites. Unswimmable rivers and cities cloaked in smog. The United States looked very different before the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) arrived, but a recent Congressional bill calls for the agency’s abolition. So Americans may wonder: What would life be like without the EPA? -SNIP-

Without the EPA’s abilities to quickly assess environmental hazards, future environmental disasters would be worsened, The Washington Post reported. A proposed 42-percent budget cut to the EPA’s research division already makes that a danger, the Post reported. -SNIP-

In the end, the EPA is unlikely to face flat-out abolition, Salzman said, because all federal environmental legislation assumes the existence of the EPA for enforcement. So eliminating the agency would require rolling back those laws, too, which is unlikely, he said.

“It’s hard for me to imagine that there would be public support to rewrite all of our major environmental laws,” he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bias; epa; fakenews; first100days; globalwarming; journalism; trumpenvironment; trumpepa
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I'm perfectly OK with abolishing the EPA.
1 posted on 03/15/2017 2:08:56 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

A Hell of a lot richer and probably more environmentally clean. If government control and regulation were better for the environment then Capitalism, Russia would be an environmental paradise and the US would look like Russia.


2 posted on 03/15/2017 2:10:20 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

No rivers running yellow with mine waste.
No bureaucrats making up offenses.
No one trying to make CO2 a pollutant...


3 posted on 03/15/2017 2:12:35 PM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
What would the U.S. look like without the EPA?

I don't know about the EPA, but without the environmental regulations we would be a heck of a lot more polluted.

We would not be able to see the mountains in Los Angeles. As a kid growing up in Los Angeles, I did not even realize some of those mountains were there until years later when the air was finally cleaned up.

4 posted on 03/15/2017 2:12:53 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

You can almost laugh at the crying and whining if this was satire.


5 posted on 03/15/2017 2:13:37 PM PDT by wastedyears (Prophecy of sky Gods, the sun and moon)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It would look like a country that has had it’s swamp drained thereby not requiring it any longer.


6 posted on 03/15/2017 2:13:39 PM PDT by sanjuanbob
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The EPA did good things until they ran out of causes and had to create them from nothing.

Only occasionally went beyond their duty. Of course when they did go off the rails it caused a lot of needless regulation.

Currently they are not needed and cause more harm than good.

Time for them to be eliminated.


7 posted on 03/15/2017 2:14:10 PM PDT by SolidRedState (I used to think bizarro world was a fiction.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The EPA would be a great agency if they would scale back their areas of regulation to 1984 levels. For their first 10-15 years, they did great work that improved the quality of life in the USA considerably. Then, they had to expand their reach to stay relevant once the air and water was clean. By 2000 or so, they were desperate and grabbing at anything they could to keep the funding increasing.


8 posted on 03/15/2017 2:15:12 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Without the EPA...There would be less Fed debt. Farmers would be able to do their jobs without getting crushed by a rogue agency. States and cities would be able to take care of their own environmental business. Air and water would be the same. Rivers downstream from gold mines would be clean.


9 posted on 03/15/2017 2:15:18 PM PDT by lurk (TEat)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

As a kid growing up in Los Angeles, I did not even realize some of those mountains were there


You forgot your /s tag at the end of the sentence.


10 posted on 03/15/2017 2:17:01 PM PDT by sanjuanbob
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To: gunsequalfreedom

No one’s opposed to basic environmental regulations, but the EPA is a gigantic wasteful inefficient bureaucracy that has become an obstacle to progress.


11 posted on 03/15/2017 2:18:15 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Every state that cares, has an environmental agency. Most counties do. Most counties and cities have zoning codes, building codes, all kinds of regulations.

The locals know where the waste dumps are.

BTW 95% of mega-fund waste dump clean-up was to problems created by the Federal government, not by private industry.


12 posted on 03/15/2017 2:18:29 PM PDT by spintreebob
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The Animas River wouldn’t be orange, that’s for sure.


13 posted on 03/15/2017 2:18:45 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Je Suis Pepe)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Finally some real news for a change!

Lol.

These liberals, all they have is Sheol and hysterical secular apocalypse stories.


14 posted on 03/15/2017 2:19:00 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Bryanw92

Yes, as with so many organizations that gain power. After their original purpose is achieved, they will not decrease, but must increase, by any and all means. Must become more and more powerful, have more staff, bigger budgets, longer reach. True for many org’s that have fulfilled their missions.


15 posted on 03/15/2017 2:19:55 PM PDT by polymuser (There's a yuuuge basket of deportables.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The Clean Air and Clean Water Acts were a great success. If only they had stopped there and not tried to seize control of the economy . . .


16 posted on 03/15/2017 2:19:56 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: SolidRedState

There would be a lot more gas stations.

See all the abandoned gas stations along the interstates and highways? EPA regulations put them out of business.

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/1997/jun/24/regulations-put-squeeze-on-small-gas-stations-epa/

Lots of mines closed or never opened, because of the EPA.

Lots of small businesses never opened because of the cost of EPA regulations and the requirement for “Environmental Impact” studies.


17 posted on 03/15/2017 2:20:10 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Abolished ... no. Pared back to core environmental issues, like air, water, soil with no concern or policy regarding Global Warming.

I’ve seen illegal toxic waste dumps. I remember LA in the late 70’s early 80’s.


18 posted on 03/15/2017 2:20:37 PM PDT by Fhios (Right now it looks like the condemned dragging their feet on the way to the gallows.)
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Good Lord! The sky will fall and the apocalypse will be upon us if the EPA is forced to economize! The horror!!!
19 posted on 03/15/2017 2:20:40 PM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: SolidRedState

By the time the EPA was created in 1970 most of the heavy lifting of cleaning up the environment had already been done by states and localities.

Pittsburgh was no longer dark at noon, and we no longer poured raw sewage from five cities into Lake Erie.


20 posted on 03/15/2017 2:21:02 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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