Posted on 03/13/2017 9:35:28 PM PDT by Innovative
WHY in earth would 20 million people who are dependent on OBAMACARE have voted for Trump, REPEALING this bill was his MAIN campaign promise along with the WALL!!! People depending on a program DO NOT vote for a person PROMISING to destroy the program!!!
Repeal Obamacare, throw out RinoCare, and eliminate suing hospitals and doctors. Remove any barrier for interstate healthcare. Free market solves this problem.
“I actually voted for Obama in 2008 and then voted for Trump in November. I left the democratic party...”
Policy wise, I don’t think you have left the democratic party. Why do you support polishing the turd? RinoCare is polishing Obamacare. Is that what you want conservatives to be? Socialists?
I agree.
“Figuring out how to rescind now established government benefits, especially expanded Medicaid”
Ryan caps the expansion of medicaid. He doesn’t rescind established benefits.
Opposition to the Ryan plan can be divided in two camps:
1- Pure libertarians who want to repeal Medicaid (Ryan repeals the Obamacare mandate/taxes and only caps the expansion of Medicaid)
2- People like you who receive Medicaid subsidies and don’t want to see them cut.
Ryan doesn’t cut benefits. Rand Paul, Mike Lee, Levin, Beck, etc want to slash all benefits now.
For them the choices are slash all benefits now or keep Obamacare as is until it “implodes”.
But the “implosion” that they are expecting won’t be reported on TV. It will be millions of people dying quietly and prematurely because of healthcare costs.
Repeal what’s possible now and live to fight another day.
Yup, Trump is going full socialist on this one. He realized he painted himself into a corner.
I wish I wouldn’t need to repost this, but I think this sentence from the article is important and many seem to miss it.
“According to the CBO, the projected loss in insurance coverage is related mostly to a provision repealing penalties associated with the ACA’s requirement to buy insurance. ”
This is a freaking disgrace. I’m going to refer to Scott Adams 3D world and conclude Trump has some kind of plan here .he can’t be this stupid
Saw the Speaker saying this (Newt Gingrich Says the Congressional Budget Office Is 'Corrupt' and Should Be Abolished)....maybe the Trump people do also....CBO was in charge of the Affordable Care Act, aka Obamacare.
You have to get a bill through the senate. Trump can’t force the 5-6 RINOs there to vote for a clean repeal.
People who can count do. In fact, if you’re depending on a program, you want someone who can make it work, not run it into the ground.
If you want real free market healthcare reform you need to require pricing transparency, allow reimportation of drugs, and have massive patent reform. None of which will happen due to the medical industry.
Ryan caps Medicaid. Yeah, at unsustainable levels. Oh, joy.
I don’t know what Trump is pulling here, I am assuming that his treasonous predecessor Barry intentionally put ObamaScamOcare into such a tangle that it’s going to take a while to unravel and rather than do it all at once, Trump is moving cautiously.
CBO track record is poor.
I am sure you are describing some of the calculus of Trump and Ryan.
CBO = Their calculations are carried out by lobbyists. New program - project low cost (lie). Cut program - project high cost and calamity.(lie)
That is exactly correct. They said Obama care would be cheap, but now they say cutting it will "cost" us Trillions.
Sure.
True.
We are not citizens to people like Ryan, Schumer, Peloisi, Warren, and McConnell - - but their slaves.
We are to "provide" for thieves, invaders, takers, complainers, and cheats.
This is a small start, drop in the bucket, spit in the wind, but I have to say a start or the supporters of the bill here will jump me. Congress would spend these savings up in 18 days and we are talking of saving this over a 10 year period.
I agree with you, it is not the governments responsibility to provide health care insurance only to see that the laws around health care are regulated for fairness and that it is not monopolized like the Government is trying to do with SINGLE PAYER.
Shocking isn't it? What kind of country lets its citizens make decisions for themselves?
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