Posted on 03/12/2017 11:47:27 AM PDT by PK1991
“Why do not people have the same problems in auto ins. or home ins. etc.?”
Because I drive my car on public streets and might hurt someone else or damage their vehicle? But I still think that anyone who can show sufficient assets should not be forced to buy it.
As long as my home is paid off, I don’t have to have homeowners’ insurance.
Mandating health insurance—enforced with penalties—so that others who pay nothing (including those here illegally) can have health insurance, while our political betters are exempt, after assuring us they would not be—that’s what I have a problem with.
People still don’t get Trump. Sad. You’ve had a year and a half now.
Trump’s negotiating involves, first, ASSUMING A DEAL WILL BE DONE. This is straight out of Robert Ringer’s bestseller, “Winning through Intimidation.” You begin by assuming all “deatils” will be “dealt with” and there are no “problems” with a deal. It’s an approach, a mental attitude of success.
Second, being positive and optimistic doesn’t mean you don’t then go ahead and fix problems-—you just never admit it. Hence, Trump has had dinner with Cruz twice and talked very favorably about Rand Paul’s work on the bill in the Senate. What’s the purpose? He is letting it be known that the bill will be fixed, that the Paul/Cruz approach is the correct answer.
He will not disavow the bill. Rather, he will claims progress while in fact the hard work of fixing this creature goes on behind the scenes.
Third, Trump will claim victory, EVEN if there is a “phase 2, 3, 4, or 10.” Because that’s how you move forward and win. You don’t win by saying, “Oh, this won’t work and I’m not going to sign it.”
Look at his property negotiations. This is exactly how he proceeds, like it’s a done deal.
I agree, but wouldn’t you start with a decent bill and then negotiate additional pieces that aren’t so good. Isn’t it only going to get worse from here to signing? I thought the opening bid would be repeal it straight up and go back to market insurance and negotiate with the Rinos from there. He seems to be on the Rino side of the negotiating table on this one.
The doctor Hannity talks about (endlessly) who offers unlimited office medical treatment and drugs for $50 per month for adults and $10 per month for each child. This allows people to buy high deductible insurance for catastrophic events, and get all the rest for under $1500 per year for a family of four. He and his partners have thousands of patients.
MISTAKE!
I think you sent this to the wrong guy.
Isn’t that the point in a country where most people have already realized that the Ford is their reality?
1. People are will to make decisions for auto and home insurance based on their financial circumstances, but health insurance covers something that no individual person is willing to put a price on.
2. Auto and homeowners insurance policies have a defined limit for the insurance carrier that allows it to keep the rates reasonable. If you insure a $30,000 car and carry a $500,000 liability limit, the insurance company is never going to pay out more than $30,000 in a collision claim or $500,000 in an accident where you are at fault. Same goes for a $400,000 home that has a homeowners policy. With health insurance, the insurance carrier has to collect premiums from you without having any idea about what their maximum financial exposure will be. If you live in a $400,000 home but the insurance company might have to build you a $4 million home in event your house burns down, do you really think your premiums are going to be based on a $400,000 home value? This is why the ObamaCare and RyanCare provisions that prohibit insurance companies from imposing lifetime limits are a huge part of the problem.
Yeah but Trump’s control over Ru Paul marginal
That’s a good point, but I don’t know that these catastrophic policies are going to be all that affordable if they had to cover pre-existing conditions and they had no lifetime limit on coverage.
Obamacare isn't a health insurance plan. It's a huge regulatory monster that even covers people who have no need or interest in government-run health insurance.
Injecting reality. Trump will call whatever emerges “repeal.”
I don’t know anyone who thinks the Ford is their reality when it comes to medical care.
Right—you need a free market for both of those.
(Which the GOP won’t do—so they are playing their part as their half of the uniparty in steering us toward fully socialized medicine.)
I will read and ponder.
Thanks for your input.
You’re welcome. Thanks for a great conversation! :-)
Think nothing of it...
“What do you mean “people can still have [Obamacare]” if they want it?”
What I mean is leave it as an option for insurance. If people want to buy it because it is so great, they can. If they do not want it, free market principles will eventually kill it as an option. Of course that is with the assumption that all taxes are gotten rid of and the government no longer runs the program.
For Republicans, this is the way to do it. Don’t repeal it outright. Use reconciliation and add back free market programs. When after a year it shows that more and more people got rid of their mandated Obamacare policies for free market ones which cost less and provide for better care, then you can shove it in the rats faces. They will never win another election.
No matter what the republicans do here, they will get slaughtered in 2018. In my opinion, it is best to provide other options and let the market take care of itself. That’s the only thing republicans can run on which will show they let people continue to purchase Obamacare and the people didn’t want it.
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