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A call to action to advance educational equity in classrooms
Sacramento Bee ^ | March 12, 2017 | Ryan Smith and Wesley Smith

Posted on 03/12/2017 9:50:23 AM PDT by artichokegrower

Math wars. Reading wars. Finger pointing. In today’s education debates, the issues that divide us seem to dominate the conversation. Often, these disagreements become distractions, pulling us further away from focusing on what’s most important: how to best meet the needs of students.

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Currently, California educates 1 out of every 10 students in the country, and of those students, 3 out of 5 are low-income and the majority are Latino. California has more English learners than any other state in the union


Liberals cannot understand the concept of cause and effect. Open borders have resulted in the destruction of California's education system.

1 posted on 03/12/2017 9:50:23 AM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

How utterly bland, vague, and PC.


2 posted on 03/12/2017 9:56:05 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (#DeplorableMe #BitterClinger #HillNO! #MyPresident #MAGA)
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The answer is so obvious, just stop teaching hard courses to be fair.


3 posted on 03/12/2017 9:58:38 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Check out "CHAOS AND MAYHEM" at Amazon.com.)
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Illegals should not have access to the educational system


4 posted on 03/12/2017 10:02:10 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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CA K thru 12 has 6.2 million students and the majority is Latino, legal, illegal, anchor babies. CA student performance is pretty poor.

These 6 million students are a snapshot of the future of CA.


5 posted on 03/12/2017 10:06:02 AM PDT by umgud
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What you say is partially true another part being our sick, corrupt American hating politician's. The aforementioned being coupled with the low IQ of the invaders equals disaster. Another item of our national education disaster is the American worship of the bestial philosophy of eating, drinking, drugging, copulating, evacuating the bowels and snoring. A people espousing that philosophy will not long hold their country.
6 posted on 03/12/2017 10:06:51 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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Teachers Unions need more money.

Tax the rich.


7 posted on 03/12/2017 10:11:02 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Bill and Hillary Clinton are the penicillin-resistant syphilis of our political system.)
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>>>. Open borders have resulted in the destruction of California’s education system. <<<

Exactly. Stupid California may get their problem solved at the Federal level with new immigration laws

And the leaders of this opposition (outreach) group admit they have ZERO answers ...... They just want it fair ....

“Fair” would be to separate them from students capable of learning quicker.


8 posted on 03/12/2017 10:17:54 AM PDT by jcon40 (The other post before yours really nails it for me. I have been a DOS / PC guy forever and always e)
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Lemme see. When we had prayer in class and students received strict discipline our performance was much better.

This is a ridiculous subject. The cupcakes in charge don't want real answers.

9 posted on 03/12/2017 10:19:46 AM PDT by LouAvul (The most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.)
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A call to action to advance educational equity in classrooms

They've been doing it for years. Teaching to the lowest common denominator! Thus, hurting those who really want to learn.

10 posted on 03/12/2017 10:24:49 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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Gee, I don't know. Maybe doing the same thing that has failed for half a century isn't going to solve the problem, do you think? Maybe if you set some actual standards and then held the kids -- and their teachers -- to those standards, the education system might improve. Maybe if you spent as much time teaching basics as you do regurgitating liberal propaganda and PC nonsense, kids would actually learn something. Maybe if you removed the union tenure protections from incompetent, corrupt teachers and fired the offenders, you'd get a better class of student. And maybe if you focused on educating the children who actually BELONG in your schools, instead of supplying breakfast, lunch, feminine products, and babysitting services for every Tom, Dick, and Jose, your resources would go further.

But what do I know? I'm not a highly skilled "educator."

11 posted on 03/12/2017 10:25:36 AM PDT by IronJack
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We have pretty much identified the problem, but more money in education will only make the teachers more comfortable and give them more gadgets that they don’t know how to use.

To give the education system a chance, the teachers need to be dedicated and dare I say it, they need to be lean and probably young. But teachers alone do not make up for the lack of social understanding that it takes to succeed. Students need to be taught to work with adults and take part in their learning. Families who teach their kids to be quiet and not interfere are not helpful, these kids pass through the school system without a ripple, and they end up not getting it. So the families are at fault too.

Now, the subject of illegal participation is a heavy millstone around the school system but it is also the way the teachers get funded. I am hopeful that one day we will reform the immigration system so that if you are not working hard, following the rules, not using the social safety net, not joining in criminal behavior, and seeking to succeed both at home and in school you will not be allowed to stay. In the meantime, these can be some of the aspects of a merit based immigration system that we could look into.


12 posted on 03/12/2017 10:29:46 AM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (California engineer (ret) and ex-teacher (ret) now part time Professor (what do you know?))
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“The cupcakes in charge don’t want real answers.”

No one in the education racket has the best interests of students as a goal. Their goal is the destruction of the US.

In just the last couple of weeks my sixth grader has been told that Raul Castro is Fidel’s son, that English is a Romance language, and that anthropogenic “climate change” is an indisputable reality.

The next problem is that our current crop of teachers and administrators lack the intelligence to educate children properly. Aggravated dumbassery is their guiding principle and their constant practice.

Every single teacher in America needs to be fired.


13 posted on 03/12/2017 10:30:10 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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I thought the California Lottery was supposed to bring educational equality to California's schools.

I guess in one way it has. California kids are equally stupid.

14 posted on 03/12/2017 10:38:53 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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A good place to start is acknowledging ability to learn is NOT equal, some people are just smarter than others; some children have unseen disabilities; better parenting is another uncontrollable reason.

As usual these well meaning civil rights people want a Utopian class room...it is not possible.

15 posted on 03/12/2017 10:41:21 AM PDT by yoe
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High School Graduation Rates by State
http://www.governing.com/gov-data/high-school-graduation-rates-by-state.html

Texas and California have similar issues of immigration yet Texas has a higher graduation rate by a big margin.

California 78.0%
Texas 85.6%

A lot of states in the Midwest have even higher graduation rates. California, despite their heavy taxes, don’t seem to be able to educate their children as well.


16 posted on 03/12/2017 10:42:47 AM PDT by Lorianne
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"How do we best meet the needs of the children." Image and video hosting by TinyPic Excuse me children. I just got a funny memo.
17 posted on 03/12/2017 10:57:12 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers, all armed conservatives)
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The very last thing America and its schools need is, "equity".

When I went through school, we weren't actively aware of it, but our 8th grade and onward were "stratified" into three "merit/potential" levels:

1) "A-B" GPAs: "College Track"

2) "C" GPAs: "Graduation Track"

3) "D-F" GPAs: "Trades Track"

Initial placement was based on achievement, aptitude and IQ tests.

After that, mobility between groups was on the basis of merit: Changing your GPA (up or down) for an entire semester could change your group placement.

We kids didn't recognize it, but certain teachers were also assigned to a "track": I only had two English teachers from 8th grade on -- and they were the toughest, meanest ones in the school system. At the time, I feared them; but, when I found myself entering college above Junior level in English -- I should have gone back and given them both big hugs! (Now, I definitely wish I'd done that...)

"Merit Stratification" is not "Segregation". It simply places students (by potential and proven effort) with like-abled & motivated peers -- and with teachers empowered to feed their academic needs.

It also gets the "don'wanna du nuffin"s (regardless of race) out of the way of those who really want to learn...

"Equity" = "Surrender"...


18 posted on 03/12/2017 11:31:08 AM PDT by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! REPEAT San Jacinto!!!)
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Dumbing down = Equality.


19 posted on 03/12/2017 11:34:30 AM PDT by Leep (Cyclops Network News (CNN). The Most Trusted Source Of Fake News.)
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Liberals cannot understand the concept of cause and effect.

I disagree.

The PTB at the top of the Democrat/Left-Wing political machine, understand implicitly.

The things they do are intentional. The Orwellian things they say are just propaganda smokescreens.

If you want to truly understand Liberals/Progressives/Democrats/Communists/Fascists/etc, it would be good to periodically review such documents as Alinsky's Rules, The Communist Goals that were presented to the US Congress, presentations (available on YouTube) by Soviet defectors, etc.

They know exactly what they are doing. As some really smart guy said, "Know thy enemy".

20 posted on 03/12/2017 11:58:19 AM PDT by ChicagahAl (Stay safe out there. The< Haters (TM) are dangerous. Very dangerous.)
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