Posted on 03/11/2017 10:10:21 PM PST by ForYourChildren
“False lips are an abomination of the Lord, but those who work faithfully are His delight.” Proverbs 12:22
The lying being employed to preserve Obamacare has likely surpassed the degree of intensity of the Gang of Eight immigration bill when Republicans were trying to convince conservatives the bill was the opposite of what it actually did.
At the time, they lied about the nature of the bill, its outcomes, its cause and effect, and the entire premise behind it. They used conservative talking points to describe something antithetical to what was actually in the bill while at the same time telling us lies about the legislative process. Allies of GOP leadership also managed to get liberal groups to fund ads in conservative districts selling amnesty as border enforcement.
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Ahhh. The Never Trumpers at CR are in full battle mode this week. A bunch of frauds led by Screamer and Chief Levin. Betsey McCaughey is not quite as negative as the Never Trumpers over at CR.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3533940/posts
As Sarah Palin said, .. “remember this is government-controlled health care, the system that requires enrollment in an unaffordable, unsustainable, unwanted, unconstitutional continuation of government-run medicine, and even in this new quasi-reformed proposal, there is still an aspect of socialism. That’s the whole premise here.””
Ahhh. The Never Trumpers at CR are in full battle mode this week. A bunch of frauds led by Screamer and Chief Levin. Betsey McCaughey is not quite as negative as the Never Trumpers over at CR.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3533940/posts
usafa92, you may want to check this thread out...
Dear Mr. President: Do NOT under any circumstances endorse or sign RYANcare - it will destroy you
March 11, 2017 | Jim Robinson
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3533900/posts
Do you consider the majority of FReepers and Jim Robinson to be Never Trumpers now?
(At its core, Obamacare) is the imposition of actuarially insolvent regulations, which spike the cost of premiums and chase out choice, competition, and innovation (which further raises costs). This, in turn, engenders a need for mass subsidization, which in itself is not only costly to the government (taxpayers), but further distorts the insurance market.
That is because insurers now negotiate with government within the confines of regulations and subsidies to box out competition rather than working directly with market demand of consumers, unencumbered by price-hiking regulations and artificially inflated demand from subsidies.
This is also why the customer service of insurance companies has been horrible; there is no ability or incentive to work with consumers. Either way they are regulated. Either way they get subsidized.
That is the definition of Obamacare’s most destructive element. That is the part of Obamacare that is not repealed at all before 2020 and only tweaked after 2020 in the GOP leadership plan. Prices will not come down. Worse, the subsidies — which will be geared more toward middle-income and upper-middle income families — will create an even greater market distortion than Obamacare’s subsidies primarily for lower-income groups already have.
My favorite Lyin’ Ryan lie.
“We can’t get 60 votes for phase 1. But don’t worry. We will get 60 votes for phase 2. And again we will get 60 votes for phase 3.”
I mean, how f’ing stupid do we have to be to know that NOTHING will ever get 60 votes in this Senate. The Dems are going to sit on their hands for 4 years and make the GOP own everything. There is no way in hell this duplicitlously promised “phase 2 and phase 3” is going to get 60 votes.
No way in hell.
Lyin’ Ryans is a sleazy ball of S#$^. He does not want repeal.
Thank God for the conservatives or the cowardly sellout GOP-e would have screwed us yet again. I hate their f’ing guts. I hate them.
Agreed. It’s way past Pitchfork Time.
Body language tells me Ryan has that Koskinen air about him. JMO
If we tar and feather them, is that racist these days?
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This is all meant to bring down Trump because of his populism. There is a real possibility that after the 2018 mid-terms the Republicans can have a filibusterer proof Senate and in such pass parts 2 and 3 but all of it does nothing about addressing the cabal between the insurance companies, the government and the price fixing for the insurance lobby called Medicare Billing Codes.
I had a hernia procedure done a couple of years ago. The bill to the insurance companies wold have been $65,000. If I were to pay cash to the same hospital and its practicing surgeon and anestesiologist, with the same billing code procedure, $13,000.
By going outside the system to a private surgical center and contracting separately with a surgeon and gas passer, the total bill was $4,200. BTW, the insurance deductible was $6,000.
The government broke it in conjunction with the insurance lobby to enrich themselves, on our backs. There never is a way to rely on government to fix anything without the cost being astronomical.
This has the ryan/preibus/pence side of the WH stench on it.
No fan of Ryan’s proposal. But anything coming out of Conservative Review is pure propaganda. The owner used to run a private student loan business that was abolished due to Obamacare. He needs it fully repealed in order to start up his billion dollar business again. (Plus they are Never Trumpers and treated Mark Steyn like a piece of crap. I have no use for the scum.)
Before Barack Obama became president, Katz had given comparatively little money to candidates and not seemed particularly interested in conservative causes either. In fact, according to the donation tracking website OpenSecrets, Katz’s earliest contributions were actually to Democrats Rep. Peter Deutsch of Florida and former congressman Bob Menendez of New Jersey, now a U.S. senator. He also gave money to former Sen. Jim Jeffords, a onetime liberal Republican who later became an independent.
In the years that followed, Katz — who is also known as an ace poker player — primarily donated to “establishment Republicans,” such as former president George W. Bush, 2012 presidential nominee Mitt Romney and Missouri Sen. Roy Blunt.
Katz’s political giving undertook an abrupt change in 2009, perhaps related to his business concerns as founder of College Lending Corp., a private company that specializes in marketing loans to university students.
Formerly a massive operation that lent out nearly $11 billion in 2008, College Lending’s business model was essentially eradicated in 2010 when Obama signed his signature health care bill. The Affordable Care Act included a lesser-known amendment that abolished private-sector distribution of federal student loan monies. Banks are still allowed to lend their own money, however.
The provision, which many Republicans condemned at the time, was designed to save the federal government money and reduce the budget deficit. It appears to have achieved that objective.
As an early version of the loan modification measure began wending its way through Congress, Katz changed his donation habits. Instead of giving to candidates beloved by GOP elites, he began massively funding conservatives who were campaigning against the Republican mainstream and party leadership.
Instead of giving to the likes of Bush or Jeffords, Katz began donating to firebrands like Nevada senatorial candidate Sharron Angle, former Rep. Allen West of Florida, former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, Delaware senatorial candidate Christine O’Donnell and Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas. The poker wiz also backed Richard Mourdock, the Republican candidate who lost his 2012 Indiana Senate race after making controversial remarks about rape being part of God’s plan for victimized women.
One other thing these political personalities had in common is their professed desire to completely repeal the Affordable Care Act and “start over,” as Palin has repeatedly demanded. A total repeal of Obamacare would, of necessity, also reinstate the federally backed private student loan industry, on which Katz built his fortune.
It’s notable that the website started by Katz in 2014 — as “managing member” and sole officer — has kept that same approach to the health care law, favoring total repeal.
The irony is thick enough to cut with a knife, especially since Conservative Review has made condemning Republicans for alleged impurity its branding signature. It even boasts its own “liberty score” metric, which it uses to prop up politicians it likes. The site does not disclose whether its ownership has donated to those politicians or candidates nor does it inform readers as to who is creating the ratings.
the boy lyin ryan wants whatever his handlers want. He is owned by anthem health et al.
Wake up. This turd expands Medicaid for two more years, cleaverly changes subsidies to $100 billion dollar “tax credits”, retains minimum mandatory coverage for all policies, and does nothing on tort reform or interstate commerce.
If Nancy Pelosi had half a brain she would be a co-sponsor.
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