Posted on 03/07/2017 9:37:25 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Ryan must be on Soros’ payroll. I hope that smug bastard contracts a painful, terminal disease soon.
It’s EXTORTION!
We don’t get the repeal, without buying the deal!
No deal!
A clean repeal, THEN try to sell us your bag of tricks!
A clean repeal, and hand it off to the free market.
Government OUT OF HEALTHCARE! NOW!
Well good, who is asking for replace anyway!? Liberals? To hell with replace my healthcare was just fine pre Obamacare. Repeal and be done with it
Because the GOP is gay, filled to the brim with liars, and can’t do anything.
Don’t do it President Trump! The slimy Republicans are trying to pull a fast one on you! Sign it when it’s all in one package and you have read it inside out. Don’t be like Nancy polosi, “ We’ll know what’s in it once we pass it” remember that idiotic statement?! Hold tight and steady...we can hang loose until a new GOOD plan is hatched!
Ryan is on Soros payroll.
Not for as much money as Sen. McCain.
Well, it won’t make his desk. That bill is loaded with horsetrading material.
It has to be, because passing nothing would be the worst disaster.
But don’t think horsetrading moves it rightward. The votes missing are in blue or nearly blue states.
Because Members of Congress can count votes like a pimp in a whorehouse can count money.
I am announcing my support for a single-payer national health system today, with a private option for people who will want it faster or better.
That's what people want, that's why there's Obamacare, that's why the GOP can't repeal it. The status quo is unsustainable, and if this bill is passed in anything like its present form the damage will be transferred from the Democrats to the GOP. All of the compromises with the insurance industry have to be undone, everybody gets a National Health Card that pays 100% of everything (everything that's "allowed", that is), taxes go up to pay for it.
It's the only way out.
Bingo. Now take the next step. CONTINUING those elements without single payer is economic suicide.
Yup. I know this sounds cold, but the sake of America, McCain should have expired when he was a prisoner.
And strong red states as well and I’m glad it is being shutdown by Paul/Lee/Cruz because the public wants it gone not a lighter liberal plan
I’ve got one kid that stayed on our plan till 26. She had to go on Obamacare for a short time after that simply because the penalty was more than the pathetic, extremely high deductible worthless plan they offered.
She then got a job that comes with insurance benefits.
But, she works in retail. It’s a very satisfying but not highly compensated job and insurance would have been a huge expense for her.
She’s no pathetic snowflake. She moved out on her own at 19 and has been very independent.
I’m no fan of any portion of government healthcare, but if they offer the benefit, I’m not turning it down.
Ha.
There are only two things the public dislikes about Obamacare - the name, and paying for it.
They're fine with the rest, in fact, they demand the rest.
Just repeal it!
This bill is better than Obamacare, but only marginally. Obamacare 2.0, as Rep. Justin Amash called it. They could do so much better.
It retains the Cadillac tax – although it’s deferred to 2025. It repeals the individual mandate, yet re-enacts it in a different form by including a 30 percent penalty when you re-insure after being uninsured. IOW, the mandate via the back door. And refundable tax credits ARE subsidies.
Way too much like Obamacare. Only marginally different. The Republicans own it now.
I don’t want to tinker around the margins. I want to get rid of it. All the more reason why we must kill the bill, and we must kill it with Republican votes.
How about re-passing the plan Obama vetoed? Apparently, it had enough support to pass, so why not pass it now when you have complete control of the government?
Even better — the Paul plan.
Fortunately, I don’t think Ryancare will pass the Senate, even if it gets out of the House. (They can lose 22 Republican House members and 2 Republican senators.) I believe there are already three Republican senators against — Cruz,. Paul, and Lee. I wouldn’t be surprised if Sasse turns out to be a no vote also.
They might not even get the opportunity, hopefully. Amash has already declared against the Ryancare plan. Hopefully, the Freedom Caucus will stand against it
Excuse me but for eight years all we heard from people here on FR was that if we took out the individual mandate it would kill Obamacare.
This takes out the individual mandate. Seems to me that goes a long way toward a full repeal.
Not me, and repeal is the only solution period. It uncinches direct government control. I’d go as far to say unfund it completely would do the same thing but the law would remain for someone to resurrect and we all know how givernment looooooves to control us
Sorry, you cannot deny with any credibility that the “individual mandate” was harped on and harped on, was the KEY to the failed USSC case, and was held up by everyone as central to the collapse of O care.
Whether “to you” or not, that’s a fact. And now it’s gone.
The bill is anything but perfect. Honestly, I doubt even this could get 60 Senate votes, though. But a more drastic bill will never get by the Senate. So this has to be done incrementally.
If indeed phase two is portability of policies, huge step. Stage three might entail some tort reform. I am in touch with a free market doctors group that has some amazing solutions here-—but in the AZ constitution it is stated there can be NO limits on torts, so that’s a state constitutional issue.
Bottom line, we ALL should treat this as a start. The Dems worked on their “bill” for 30 years. If we completely reverse this in 15, it will be a great accomplishment.
Why not a clean repeal??
Because they DO NOT HAVE the votes in the Senate to do a total repeal & replace.
We all wish it was different but that’s the way it is, folks. So you make what healthcare changes you can right now w/ the 52 Senate votes you do have.
And after that, get to work on taxes, jobs, border wall, jobs, regulations, jobs, energy, jobs, infrastructure, jobs....
Then they work again on healthcare to do more. These next things will require Pres Trump to be very active to get both the Rs & Ds in Congress to move on his healthcare agenda. He will have to threaten both groups with losing their seat to make them get in line.
This is one of the true duties of a president: To use the bully-pulpit to get legislation passed and is the mark of a great president.
There you go - being the voice of reason in this matter. Most people don’t understand insurance, and I think that most haven’t even read the proposed bill. This isn’t the final bill, I’m sure it will be tweaked. Unfortunately, most on here read headlines and other posts and jump on the bandwagon. Another unfortunate thing is that most people don’t understand insurance either. I was an agent for a number of years and it can be complicated.
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