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Ryan slams Paul for 'publicity stunt' (Truncated)
The Hill ^ | 03/03/2017 | Lisa Hagen

Posted on 03/04/2017 3:39:44 AM PST by alloysteel

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Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) on Friday blasted Sen. Rand Paul’s (R-Ky.) hunt for House Republicans’ closely held draft bill to repeal and replace ObamaCare as a “publicity stunt.”

“I like Rand, but I think he’s looking for a publicity stunt here,” Ryan told Fox News' Bret Baier. “The things he described are just not accurate.”

Paul tweeted on Thursday that the ObamaCare legislation was being kept under “lock and key” in a “secure location.” He then went to the House side of the Capitol to try and enter the room where he said the bill was located — with a copier in tow to distribute the draft.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: obamacare; paulryan; randpaul
Obamacare-Lite is still a scourge upon the earth. The lesser of two evils is still evil.

End it, don't mend it.

There has been a great strain upon the actual DELIVERY of health services, exacerbated by placing demands on the services that exceeded the means to deliver.

Like gold, lifesaving procedures are scarce and should be highly valued. The question is paying for them.

Obamacare is woefully inadequate to the task. Its only response is to vastly increase the cost to ALL participants, then ration the care to the recipients. There is no competition for access to the services, only paying more and more over time.

Nobody seems to want to resolve the conundrum. Simple, really. Individuals are totally responsible for the decisions of their OWN health, or they find an adequate caretaker to advise them competently. No government agency can fulfill this role.

Yeah, Trump can veto. But the original problem remains, and it has just become a club to beat up the Republicans.

1 posted on 03/04/2017 3:39:44 AM PST by alloysteel
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To: alloysteel

The whole point of ZeroCare being passed in the first place was to deliberately COLLAPSE the entire healthcare/insurance industry and then implement a government-run single-payer system.


2 posted on 03/04/2017 3:43:30 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Je Suis Pepe)
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To: alloysteel

Obamacare was about putting money into the pockets of the healthcare industry who complained about freeloaders showing up.

Obama put progressive liberal welfare state bells and whistles in the plan to distract the left leaning voters from realizing it was all about a ‘bailout’ of the healthcare industry to be paid out of their pockets.

The Republicans have to keep the special interests in healthcare happy like pharma.

Donald Trump referred to pharma in his speech, asserting the industry has trouble getting its products approved by the FDA.

Hard for me to believe that with all the ads I see on TV for drugs to deal with every ailment, big and small.


3 posted on 03/04/2017 3:45:20 AM PST by Nextrush (Freedom is everybody's business: Remember Pastor Niemoller)
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To: Nextrush

We have to pass the bill to see what’s in it! Pelosi is back!
The more things change the more they stay the same.


4 posted on 03/04/2017 3:51:24 AM PST by TStro (Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.)
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To: alloysteel

Ryan was his usual oily, evasive and smug self throughout that interview. He attacked Rand because Rand was 100% correct.


5 posted on 03/04/2017 3:57:51 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: alloysteel

(Even Trump’s move to stop enforcing the individual mandate through the IRS will be mute if it passes, because they will simply mandate that insurance companies charge a 30% surcharge for the first year someone goes for coverage after a period without it.)


6 posted on 03/04/2017 3:59:49 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Nextrush
The problem with the FDA is that the approval process takes too long -- not that they don't approve enough drugs. I believe the problem with the FDA is that the approval process takes up a number of years that reduces the patent protection period of a drug. A pharmaceutical company may have a great new drug that it wants to bring to market. If it gets 20 years of patent protection but the FDA takes seven years to approve the drug, then they only have exclusive rights to sell the drug for 13 years. So the company has to recover all of the costs of developing the drug ... plus the cost of the approval process ... plus all the overhead costs of research and development for other drugs that never make it to market ... in a fairly narrow window of time.

I'd be curious to hear from other Freepers who may know the process better than I do.

7 posted on 03/04/2017 4:01:36 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: 9YearLurker
I'm not sure I agree with Rand Paul here. The U.S. Senate and House of Representatives function as two separate legislative bodies. I would think a member of one house has no business calling out the leadership of the other house for anything related to legislation that hasn't even passed yet.

Senator Paul can get to work on the Senate version of a bill to repeal ObamaCare, if he wants to keep himself busy.

8 posted on 03/04/2017 4:04:05 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: alloysteel

I am not a fan of Rand Paul, but, I would trust him before I would ever trust lying Ryan.


9 posted on 03/04/2017 4:05:47 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: TStro

Nancy Pelosi tweeted -

(1:30 PM - 2 Mar 2017)

“Just helping out @RandPaul. #ReleaseTheHounds #WheresTheBill,” Pelosi wrote with an image of two dogs.


10 posted on 03/04/2017 4:06:06 AM PST by alloysteel (John Galt has chosen to take the job. This time, Atlas did NOT shrug.)
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To: All

I refer people to the column by Ann Coulter:

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2017-03-01.html#read_more


11 posted on 03/04/2017 4:15:45 AM PST by alloysteel (John Galt has chosen to take the job. This time, Atlas did NOT shrug.)
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Uhhhhh.....Paul Ryan is saying that DOCTOR Rand Paul is grandstanding about health care? How can we trust the HOR Republicans when they keep Ryan in power?


12 posted on 03/04/2017 4:17:13 AM PST by grania
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To: Alberta's Child

Apparently the House and the Senate are working together on a single bill, and I also read reports that the House and Senate may try to pass whatever bill they come up with so fast that they won’t, for example, have scoring on it—so they are apparently trying to hide it until they do a quick pass, just the way they have treated their multilateral trade monstrosities, for example.


13 posted on 03/04/2017 4:28:28 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: alloysteel

FAKE “And REPLACE”

“And REPLACE” was NOT what the people voted for.

Zilch, zero, nada.


14 posted on 03/04/2017 4:41:28 AM PST by TheNext ("PULL THE ABC BROADCAST LICENSE!" "Give it to TEA Party.")
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To: TStro

Lets hope the end game is not “Canadianization” of the USA.

Conrad Black, a Canadian publisher considered a “conservative” and a buddy of El Rushbo to boot, was interviewed by TV Ontario (TVO) about President Trump.

Black said a sign of success in a Trump presidency would be a “universal health care system”.

Of course Canada has such an animal paid for by the average citizen taxpayers and not so much by business, because corporate taxes are low. There’s a national sales tax up there, plus the new carbon tax coming down in 2018 plus the new marijuana tax with its legalization.

They plan to add a prescription plan to Canada’s healthcare system in the coming years courtesy of all the new taxes on the little people up there.

Tax reform plans are also in the works in Washington with lower corporate taxes on the table.

I’ve seen too many talking heads in recent years on Fox News or Fox Business pitching a national sales tax notion.

The president is promising a ‘great healthcare system’.

We shall see......


15 posted on 03/04/2017 4:42:54 AM PST by Nextrush (Freedom is everybody's business: Remember Pastor Niemoller)
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To: alloysteel

The GOP was given the majority in both houses on the promise to kill obamacare, not create flesh eating zombie-obamacare at the bequest of the cronies.


16 posted on 03/04/2017 4:50:13 AM PST by Sirius Lee (In God We Trust, In Trump We Fix America)
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To: Nextrush
For all their differences, the health care systems in Canada and the U.S. are built on the exact same flawed premise: You can always obligate someone else to pay your medical bills. The only substantive difference between them was that the "someone else" is defined differently in the two countries.

Even the U.S. system didn't remotely resemble a free market approach once people began relying on insurance companies to pay the bills instead of paying out of their own pockets.

17 posted on 03/04/2017 5:04:53 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: Alberta's Child

There’s plenty of money and power in pharma, that’s for sure.

I’ve read Peter Hitchens writings in columns and on his blog about pharma products and people with criminal records along the lines of serial killers, mass murderers etc. etc.

Those terrorists in San Bernadino had Xanax laying around their apartment I remember as something he wrote about.

In 1969 that song was out “In the Year 2525”.....’everything you think, do or say is in the pill you took today....’


18 posted on 03/04/2017 5:19:59 AM PST by Nextrush (Freedom is everybody's business: Remember Pastor Niemoller)
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To: alloysteel

Ryan is upset that Rand Paul called attention to the backroom manner in which the RyanCare sausage is being made. The same method the Dims used when they foisted ObummerCare on us.

Ryan is using Boehner’s old tricks of drafting legislation in secret so the Freedom Caucus and other conservatives won’t have any input, then trying to jam it through the House on an up or down vote.

Like we’ve said a million times on FR, there will be no sea change in Congress unless and until Ryan and McConnell are replaced by conservatives.


19 posted on 03/04/2017 6:07:11 AM PST by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: alloysteel

The RINOs in Congress have no intention of repealing Ocare.


20 posted on 03/04/2017 7:21:37 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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