Posted on 03/01/2017 6:23:57 PM PST by cotton1706
What do you want to bet that the purpose was to prevent them from aiding the DNC in preparing an effective rebuttal?
Now you know what it’s like to watch the “news”. Maybe your private conversation should have stayed private. Well done Mr. President
What a shame the fake news purveyors got suckered by fake news, I doubt they were able to see the irony.
Donald proposed exactly what he hinted at ,,, reforming legal immigration... he didn’t say a word about making illegals legal through an amnesty and made no such intonation... CNN hears what they want to hear .
Yep. Stay vigilant.
LOL Love it!
True socialists- they keep coming back for more expecting a different result. He has been playing the MSM for last year. At some point you think they might learn
Clever. He got the haters to tune in and listen for him to stab us in the back but was schooled and I’d bet reached more than a few.
Trump has never indicated he was in favor of a pathway to citizenship. It may be your opinion but it’s baseless. Back when the Gang of 8 were pushing for amnesty, Trump repeatedly said and tweeted that amnesty would destroy the Republican party (because of all the new Dem voters). Even during the campaign, when he did mention the possibility that some might be able to stay, he talked about work permits for needed farm workers, not citizenship and voting rights for everyone. It was soon before the WI primary when he discussed that.
Cruz tried to pretend that Trump, supposedly just a lying NY liberal, saying illegals could go home, get in line, and apply to become legal citizens like everyone else in the world meant he was for amnesty and citizenship for illegals (whether he wanted the legal immigration process “expedited” or not is irrelevant, although I remember a lot of Cruz supporters getting hung up over it). That’s a real distortion of the normal meaning of words. We’ll see what Trump ends up doing, but right now you have nothing to base your allegations on—and CNN wasn’t even claiming that he wanted citizenship for illegals. Good job on going one step further than CNN in your anti-Trump inventiveness.
74 million viewers. More than the Oscar Flubfest.
I remember those days.
And our strayed away friend Drudge fell for it and posted the fake news without checking it out. Anyone else notice Drudge has carried stupid stories way past their shelf life i.e. Kellyanne on the couch for 2 days TWO DAYS really Matty Boy? TWO days for that piece of crap non story?
I admit I seek out your posts to get to the truth of what’s happening. I mentioned you to a friend before the election. She said that your comments gave her hope that Trump would be victorious. Thanks for being here.
Trump/Bannon put some cheese in a maze every day, open the gate for the little reporters, who dutifully scurry after it while the White House goes about governing. Sort of like an automatic laser beam to keep a cat occupied.
Thanks for your Comments, Fenwick.
By the way, I voted for Trump in November, but not in the Primaries.
The Gang of 8 took place in 2013.
Was Trump even a Republican in 2013?
I did a lot of research on Trump's pre-2015 immigration statements after Trump became a GOP presidential primary candidate in 2015.
I published all that research on Free Republic.
I can't recall that Trump ever criticized the Gang of 8 until he sought the GOP nomination in 2015.
However, I don't Tweet, and I did not research his Tweets.
In any event, I clearly recall that Trump publicly criticized Romney when Romney took a hard line anti-immigration position during the GOP Primaries in 2012.
I'd like to go back and review my Free Republic research from 2015 before I make any definitive statements, but the only way I know how to do that is to click back through 50 pages in my FR archive, which I don't really feel like doing at the moment.
> Was Trump even a Republican in 2013?
He endorsed Romney in 12.
Re: “Was Trump even a Republican in 2013?
You Wrote: “Trump endorsed Romney in 12.”
True.
But, according to Trump, Romney “begged” for Trump’s endorsement.
Trump also said Romney would have “dropped to his knees” if Trump had asked him to do that.
So, was Trump a Republican in 2012?
I guess so.
The reason I asked is because Trump publicly expressed an interest in running for governor of New York in 2006 - as a Democrat!
Also, Trump quit the Republican Party in 2011 and became an Independent for six months.
Trump also quit the Republican Party in 1999 and actively campaigned for the presidential nomination of Ross Perot’s Party in 2000.
And, in terms of total political donations, six of Trump’s top ten candidates have been Democrats.
Ann Coulter republished several of Trump’s anti-Gang of Eight tweets from 2013 on her website back during the primaries. I found a few additional ones myself, as well as an interview he did with Breitbart News at that time where he said essentially that amnesty would be suicide for the Republican party.
And yes, Trump was a Republican at that time. He switched back to Republican in 2009, after getting a look at Obama. He had been a registered Republican earlier during part of the Reagan years, all of Bush I’s term, and for most of the Clinton years until 1999, when he joined Perot’s Reform Party because he planned to run for the Reform Party’s presidential nomination (after watching the Buchanan and Ventura wings of the party tear themselves apart, he washed his hands of the matter). He switched to Dem during W.’s first term, which is unsurprising since he obviously dislikes the Bushes (the feeling is clearly mutual).
After the 2012 election, Trump did criticize the way that Romney talked about self-deportation as seeming to be heartless and something that cost him votes, but one could argue his specific criticisms were more about public relations and how Romney dealt with messaging than actually opposing illegals leaving. Regardless, though, he definitely did not say illegals should be given citizenship.
I do think Trump has felt around for the specific details of what his position should be on illegals, but he’s been on the general side of securing the border and opposing illegal immigration since at least 2000. In his 2000 book, The America We Deserve, he wrote that immigrants need to come here by the law or leave and pinpointed illegal immigration as a big problem for the nation (that book was also where he argued pre-9/11 that we need to crack down more on terrorism, as well as crime and failing teachers unions). He first promoted the idea of a border wall in 2012 before the Gang of 8 nonsense.
I have never doubted Trump's bona fides on PREVENTING illegal immigration or deporting criminal immigrants.
However, granting any kind of “temporary legal” status to non-violent illegal immigrants who are already in the USA will inevitably lead to Amnesty and a path to citizenship.
I did not trust Trump on that issue before the election, and he has done nothing since the election to end my mistrust.
He has been office for six weeks, and I have heard no mention of universal E-Verify, which should have been done on Day 1, and I have heard nothing substantive about the illegal “Dreamers.”
On top of that, LEGAL immigration into the USA is currently about 1.5 million per year. Before the election - and after - Trump has pretty much shrugged his shoulders at that politically insane issue.
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