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Why Corporate America Has Conniptions about Trump’s H-1B Visa Reform
Wolf Street ^ | 2/6/2017 | Wolf Richter

Posted on 02/19/2017 1:35:05 PM PST by Tours

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To: Tours

HR departments usually know almost NOTHING about the underlying science but the meme they CAN understand is,

“Immigrants are eager to work and will do so for about HALF the pay...”

HR departments also love it if the visa is tied to THEIR specific company:

They are very unlikely to sue, will put up with voluntary overtime, sometimes come from countries with no developed concept of sexual harassment, or sticking up for one’s “rights”.

As a general rule if you are chosing as an applicant to involve the HR Dept of a company then you are DOING IT WRONG.


21 posted on 02/19/2017 2:23:37 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Still Thinking

Well then that would hurt the offenders like Mexico even harder

No one would be looking to these taxed remittances to countries who have been bad actors.

Send $$$ elsewhere. I doubt Switzerland or Singapore have been big contributors to the immigration problems


22 posted on 02/19/2017 2:25:48 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat ("Liberalism is a mental disorder" On FULL Display NOW BOYCOTT Mexico NFL PepsiCO Kellogg's)
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To: Alberta's Child

Back in college there was an old maintenance building or something on one of the main roads. One story with a metal roof. Someone had painted something like :”I cant spel enginerr and now I our won.” It was there the entire 4.5 years I went there!

And yes - it took me an extra half year, in spite of bringing in a bunch of AP credits for history and english. I had a hard time with the math and physics - but I enjoy it. I would help the other guys with their reports. This one freshman was a genius and help me with math and physics, and I would help him with his written reports that were at a 7th grade level.

I’ve read where the school has integrated more of the writing and english into the engineering program.


23 posted on 02/19/2017 2:27:04 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts FDR's New Deal = obama)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

I was assuming that such a tax would have to be country-agnostic. Otherwise you have to justify which countries you choose. Yes, of course no sane person is going to protect his money by sending it to Mexico.


24 posted on 02/19/2017 2:27:35 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: 21twelve
I’ve read where the school has integrated more of the writing and English into the engineering program.

That always pissed me off, in principle.

They don't make the liberal arts weenies take calculus and physics, yet I'm forced to take THEIR boring crap.

BTW, "English" is capitalized. ;)

25 posted on 02/19/2017 2:31:19 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking

My suggestion of a remittances tax was based on the percentage varying with the problems created by the country of origin of the illegals and immigrants, H 1 B Visas, et al.

Mexico would by far have the highest remittances tax of any. Thus it would discourage “honest” senders from using that country to transfer money.


26 posted on 02/19/2017 2:33:43 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat ("Liberalism is a mental disorder" On FULL Display NOW BOYCOTT Mexico NFL PepsiCO Kellogg's)
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To: gaijin

Shameful. The dodging out of hiring and paying Americans, what they paid the guy, and then how they treated him when he was of no more use.


27 posted on 02/19/2017 2:35:19 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking

Where I went to college, the liberal-arts weenies had to take calculus, physics, chemistry, electrical engineering, aeronautics, thermodynamics and computer science.


28 posted on 02/19/2017 2:36:47 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

That should work. If it’s based on a formula, then no one can (rightly) claim it’s subjectively targeted. Course leftards will jump on “discriminatory effect”, but they’re stupid and should be ignored in court.


29 posted on 02/19/2017 2:37:24 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: DuncanWaring

Then I’m cool with it. If they have to take my stuff, I’ll (grudgingly, and with much eye rolling) take their stuff.


30 posted on 02/19/2017 2:38:18 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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In my present life I own a software company. H1B needs to die. Completely.

Let the wages rise which will attract new, American, blood and the market will stabilize. American workers will make good money for doing real work that makes American businesses vastly more productive.

Isn’t that what the left says they want? Isn’t that what crony RINOs bloviate about?

No - what they want is control.

Let freedom work.

Oh and I presently offshore about half of my coding work in order to compete. I don’t want to do that - or hire US based non-citizens. I am completely in favor of having to pay a tariff for offshoring labor. As long as it is an even playing field.


31 posted on 02/19/2017 2:39:42 PM PST by TheTimeOfMan (A time for peace and a time for war)
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To: Still Thinking
“BTW, “English” is capitalized.”

I was wondering about that! (I should have checked to avoid looking like an idiot.) I did have to take one stupid humanities elective in college - studies in religion or something.

I don't think that the new system is an entire liberal arts program, but just learning how to write better, especially in terms of scientific papers. I think it is a good idea.

32 posted on 02/19/2017 2:46:38 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts FDR's New Deal = obama)
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To: Tours

Cheap Labor Express bump for later....


33 posted on 02/19/2017 3:06:48 PM PST by indthkr
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To: Still Thinking; 21twelve

You should go back and see what engineering schools required their incoming freshmen to know back in the pre-WW1 period. You’d be shocked at how much history, literature and even foreign language competency was required for any college student back in those days.


34 posted on 02/19/2017 3:23:01 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: GraceG

Yup I spent $20k for an intensive Java course 16 years ago and Java certified. Haven’t worked a day in IT since.


35 posted on 02/19/2017 3:40:05 PM PST by kvanbrunt2 (all your base are belong to us)
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To: Alberta's Child

I think early Harvard and Yale entrance requirements were reading and writing Hebrew and Greek.


36 posted on 02/19/2017 3:44:13 PM PST by kvanbrunt2 (all your base are belong to us)
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To: Still Thinking

I, being a Computer Science guy, had to take Econ, Political Science, Psychology, Biology, History, Philosophy, foreign language, and a few other ghastly ones I don’t recall.


37 posted on 02/19/2017 3:54:46 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: 21twelve

Probably, but still annoying.


38 posted on 02/19/2017 3:55:42 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Tours

These companies should be allowed to bring in new H1-B workers if they have posted free Internet-based training for all of the tech skills they require for at least 18 months before the hire—and they have not had any qualified Americans complete the training and apply for the jobs.

Oh, you know what else would help? If they could straighten out the issue of “employee nexus” tax claims by state. That’s where states claim that if you hire anyone in your state—including anyone working remotely—it is presumed that you have essentially hung your shingle out to work in that state—and therefore that state can start to charge sales tax for any services like modern tech products sold into that state.

What I am working to, is that tech companies ought also to not have any prospective, qualified American workers complete/demonstrate their training requirements before being able to make an H1-B job offer.

Can you imagine how many Americans in lower-cost parts of the country would happily complete the requisite tech training—and then get a job from a Silicon Valley company?


39 posted on 02/19/2017 5:04:50 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: gaijin

The other meme HR departments know is that “they cannot find experienced workers”. To understand this meme just listen to the ZipRecruiter ad on the radio.


40 posted on 02/19/2017 5:24:38 PM PST by zaxtres
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