Posted on 02/19/2017 1:35:05 PM PST by Tours
“The latest scandal involves the University of California, San Francisco, which has laid off 80 American workers in its IT department last year. Among them was Audrey Hatten-Milholin, who’d worked there for 17 years.”
Wow, a hyphenated SF UC woman wakes up and finally smells the roses.
Because they want to get free help and don’t realize the H1B’s live 6 to an apartment and send their salaries home instead of buying the stuff the company makes? Oopsie! Strategeric error.
If they can’t ship the jobs overseas, they want to import the workers.
There were a lot of reasons I voted for Trump, but being in IT, reforming H1-b visas was the most beneficial to me. I can’t imagine why anyone in IT would vote for Hillary, since she promised to open up the limits on foreign workers, but in my office, out of the ones that I know who voted, I am the only one who voted for Trump.
The surest way to cut down on H1b visa entries is to require that they be paid exactly what an American worker would. At the very least it would reduce the number of Americans being laid off and replaced by cheap imported workers.
For some reason Indian recruiters are contacting me again with short term, low paying contract jobs that might go perm.
I politely send them an update resume showing that I’ve been employed full time for several years.
There is real talk of some maintenance mechanics being laid off this coming Friday. I hope not. They are all good guys and I’ve learned or relearned tons from them.
H1B was supposed to be used to hire exclusive specialists from other countries like for instance Nuclear Scientists with experience in “sub nucleaon muon decay in super heavy elements” from Switzerland that only 5 people around the world know about and 4 of them were Swiss and the other was Japanese and we need 2 of them in the US for a new reactor design project for nuclear submarines....
It has been abused brutally to include any Indian schmuck who got a memorization degree in Java coding from Hindu U. which are a dime a freeking dozen and we have plenty of people HERE already who have the skills, but the Indians they can hire 4 for the price of 1...
That is theoretically a requirement but there’s too many ways to game it.
[ “I thought the purpose of H-1B visas was to give America a competitive edge, not help companies ship American jobs abroad,” Tan told the Times. “This is now standard practice in the technology industry.” ]
Hmmmm. Well, I guess she finally figured it out. When a large “consulting” firm was brought in at high-levels at a well-known American company (I will not name them privately, either) one of my customer-users asked what the purpose was.
I told him “To reduce head-count among your coworkers”. And then it began. A great number of their retail locations began to disappear starting not long after that time as well. Many of the stores I went to for field deployment tests, etc., no longer exist though they had for decades. Two are still in existence.
This story rings true to me. But I’m hoping there are some Freepers who are in the affected tech industries who can add some anecdotal evidence for either side of the argument.
This is important and we know where Trump will stand on the issue. But we need to stay #1 in Tech. So we need to hear from the other side. They might be able to make their case in some instances.
Bottom line for me: I’m with Trump and would love to see our schools cranking out increasing numbers of techies who move right into well paying jobs in the tech industries. That should be our future.
I guess I'm off-shore from the Neponset River.
All the more reason to levy a remittances tax, the percentage based on the number of illegals, legals admitted, countries of origin/destination, and type of visa admitted.
Paid for The Wall all in one fell swoop
No, they need to be paid at least as much as their supervisor is paid.
If they’re really as good as they’re claimed to be, it’ll still be a bargain.
Yup, it’s a win-win. The only concern is to make sure it never gets used against normal conservative American citizens moving money overseas out of self-protection from the goobermint.
You know that’s exactly how leftist tyrants would try to use it. OECD, Hillary & her intellectual spawn, etc.
If you make sure it can’t be used as a money saver / negotiating tactic against citizens, then it’s worthwhile as a program to attract the best and brightest, or to backfill a legitimate talent shortage among citizens.
Gaming the requirement has been standard practice for well over a decade. There may as well not be a requirement, given how easy it is to evade it and how nonexistent enforcement is.
1. An undergraduate engineer from a U.S. engineering school commands an average salary of $X.
2. An engineering technician who has no college education or perhaps an associate's degree or technical certification(s) commands an average salary of $Y, which might be 60% of $X.
3. The undergraduate engineer from a U.S. engineering school has some valuable skills, but does not have the ability to think rationally and exercise independent judgment, cannot write coherent English, etc.
4. A prospective employer recognizes that the undergraduate engineer from a U.S. engineering school is basically a good technician -- and should be paid $Y, not $X. But the "engineer" educated in the U.S. is not willing to work for $Y.
5. An engineer educated in a foreign school has many of the same limitations as the one educated in the U.S. school (particularly when it comes to English fluency), but is willing to work for $Y.
It's really that simple.
P.S. -- If a half-@ssed graduate of a foreign "diploma mill" is capable of doing a job for one of these large tech companies, then the degree requirement for that job is probably meaningless and unnecessary.
Last year Tesla in Fremont, Calif brought in a Slovenian H1B guy to DESIGN a new body contouring facility for them.
Not sweeping up the acility, mind you —DESIGNING it.
And they paid him FIVE DOLLARS per hour, 16 hour days, 6 days per week.
Then he fell and hurt himself, and they tried to rush him out of the country:
It really seems like these outfits hear about what FARMS are able to get away with and they simply want to replicate THAT.
Exactly. They need to enforce that in some meaningful way, or sharply reduce the H1Bs.
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