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A Civil War For Control Of The US Government Has Erupted Between "The Deep State" And Donald Trump
Zero Hedge ^ | Feb 16, 2017 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 02/16/2017 11:02:39 PM PST by Trump_vs_Evil_Witch

The ruthless political assassination of Michael Flynn was just one battle of a major civil war that has erupted for control of the U.S. government. Donald Trump and his new administration are now under relentless assault by “the deep state”, and at this point it is not clear who will emerge as the victor. There are many that use the term “deep state” as a synonym for the intelligence community, but the truth is that it is much broader than that. In reality, the deep state encompasses thousands upon thousands of unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats that never seem to change no matter which party wins an election. Certainly the intelligence community is at the heart of this system, but there are countless others that are embedded within key government agencies and the Pentagon that deeply resent Donald Trump and the kind of change that he is attempting to bring to Washington.

There is a vast and exceedingly complex tapestry of laws, rules and regulations that govern the behavior of government officials. In past administrations, those laws, rules and regulations have been very selectively enforced, but now the “deep state” intends to use them as weapons against the Trump administration.

In essence, Donald Trump and his team are walking through a minefield, and his enemies are watching like a hawk for even the smallest slip up.

Theoretically, everyone working for the federal government is now working for Donald Trump. But in reality that is not the case. I wrote about the sabotage that is being done by Obama loyalists a few days ago, and it isn’t going to stop until Donald Trump does a complete housecleaning.....

...Can you see why I am describing this conflict as a “civil war”? To me, this is definitely treason…

(Excerpt) Read more at zerohedge.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cia; deepstate; flynn; insurrection; nsa; sedition; shadowgovernment; trump
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General Flynn's son made a statement about many members of the Washington elite being involved in a pediphilia scandle didn't he? ....Was Gen. Flynn actually taken out by the intelligence community because of the FBI's roundup of perverts around the country?
1 posted on 02/16/2017 11:02:39 PM PST by Trump_vs_Evil_Witch
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To: Trump_vs_Evil_Witch
remember we fight against "principalities"....

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if there is a huge homosexual cabal in and around the DC power belt...

they use it to control the pubs and the military....IMO anyway...

2 posted on 02/16/2017 11:07:36 PM PST by cherry
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To: Trump_vs_Evil_Witch

“There is a vast and exceedingly complex tapestry of laws, rules and regulations that govern the behavior of government officials. In past administrations, those laws, rules and regulations have been very selectively enforced, but now the “deep state” intends to use them as weapons against the Trump administration.
In essence, Donald Trump and his team are walking through a minefield, and his enemies are watching like a hawk for even the smallest slip up.”

The weapon to fight back is arrests from Sessions on select nodes, like NSA, CIA, and justice employees who leaked and surveilled domestically illegally, and to fully expose the DC pedophile ring.


3 posted on 02/16/2017 11:08:27 PM PST by DesertRhino
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To: cherry

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/alex-grubbs/dc-residents-have-highest-transgender-identification-rate-nation

DC has 2.8 % trannies. Its the only city in the nation with more than 1%. God only knows how many homos there are.


4 posted on 02/16/2017 11:11:35 PM PST by DesertRhino
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To: cherry

So tell something. Why then, when we need a man like this the most, does Adm Harward decline to serve his nation?


5 posted on 02/16/2017 11:11:53 PM PST by nikos1121 (We are about to see The Golden Age of Pericles in the new Trump Administration.)
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To: Trump_vs_Evil_Witch

This is the world we live in....and these are the hands we’re given.

We can’t afford to relax and compromise and give in to these whining bastards.

They are all that is wrong with us (US) right now.

Keep pushing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV4oYkIeGJc


6 posted on 02/16/2017 11:12:18 PM PST by 1_Inch_Group (Country Before Party)
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To: Trump_vs_Evil_Witch

This is an extremely dangerous situation. If something isn’t done to regain control, President Trump might as well play a lot of golf.

Trump isn’t one to waste his time on useless endeavors and he has said so. I can see him resigning if he is completely paralyzed by the shadow Government.


7 posted on 02/16/2017 11:14:28 PM PST by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Trump_vs_Evil_Witch

Melodramatic chicken littles.


8 posted on 02/16/2017 11:15:30 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Trump_vs_Evil_Witch

Recognizing the situation is the first step to correcting it. trump called the entrenched PTB out yesterday. he knows exactly what he’s up against.


9 posted on 02/16/2017 11:15:54 PM PST by RC one (The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances)
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To: nikos1121
Because he's a lefty POS.

Thank GOD that he refused to be a member of the Cabinet! Whoever suggested him, is NOT on Trump's side at all.

10 posted on 02/16/2017 11:16:09 PM PST by nopardons (BRAVO)
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To: Trump_vs_Evil_Witch

This is where the rubber meets the road.

Donald Trump is a good man, but he is only one man. If our side is to prevail, We the People must also step up to the plate.


11 posted on 02/16/2017 11:18:10 PM PST by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: Trump_vs_Evil_Witch

He is so right about this that no more right remains.


12 posted on 02/16/2017 11:18:44 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Trump_vs_Evil_Witch
I just heard that Obama 17 days before he left office signed an order that allowed over a dozen agencies access to SIGANT intercepted data voice and emails of the American public. This , normally is data is only available to the NSA, and of course is classified ... The number of potential leaks now by those willing to break the law for Obama and the potential targets of all Trumps cabinet and Trump himself of wiretapped records going back who knows how far is unprecedented . These leaks are likely to be used illegally for many months to come... if anybody is caught leaking they should be jailed ,, and unlike Hillary who was negligent with personal data, law abiding Americans should not fear their own government leaking private information,, these people are dirty scum...
13 posted on 02/16/2017 11:22:47 PM PST by seastay
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To: nikos1121

no clue....


14 posted on 02/16/2017 11:23:54 PM PST by cherry
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To: seastay

so, we really need more wikileaks and Snowdens’....if the left wants to leak, then somebody should leak on them....


15 posted on 02/16/2017 11:25:53 PM PST by cherry
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To: Trump_vs_Evil_Witch

> “... and at this point it is not clear who will emerge as the victor.”

Sorry Tyler, but you lost it right there. Most times you’re able to get through several paragraphs before making a non-sequitur if you even make one. But not this time.


16 posted on 02/16/2017 11:28:00 PM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: DesertRhino

Definitely need to arrest and prosecute the worst offenders.

But the whole Federal Government needs a thorough house cleaning.

The classic approach is a re-organization. Stir everything up like in musical chairs, and then remove a third of the chairs - directing the best people into the most important chairs, the worst out the door, and the ones you can’t get rid of into chairs in the corner, where they can do no harm.

Once the cabinet is in place, give them a few months to prepare, then hit most Departments and Agencies with a major re-org/downsizing starting on 1 October.

How about re-organizing everything according to only Constitutional functions, like Treasury, Defense, State, Justice - and jamming all the socialist overgrowth into one catchall Department?


17 posted on 02/16/2017 11:29:18 PM PST by BeauBo
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To: Trump_vs_Evil_Witch
...and at this point it is not clear who will emerge as the victor

Someone hasn't been paying attention. Barring something more than merely political assassination, in the next four years they'll come to realize they rattled the wrong cage.

18 posted on 02/16/2017 11:29:41 PM PST by stormhill
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To: cherry; Trump_vs_Evil_Witch

It’s no coincidence that Obama was pushing homosexuality and perversion at full speed in his last years in the White House.


19 posted on 02/16/2017 11:30:51 PM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: BeauBo

“The classic approach is a re-organization. Stir everything up like in musical chairs, and then remove a third of the chairs”

A beautiful plan. And tailor made task for a businessman.


20 posted on 02/16/2017 11:41:15 PM PST by DesertRhino
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To: nikos1121

Deep $tate = Deep pockets corruption masked by echo chamber narrative of goodness. Don’t believe it for one second.


21 posted on 02/16/2017 11:45:38 PM PST by blackdog
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To: cherry

Not just homosexual, all forms of sexual deviancy. With power comes the desire to do that which titilates.


22 posted on 02/16/2017 11:46:18 PM PST by exnavy (God save the republic.)
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To: stormhill

A few thousand Ceaucescu moment deplorables setting vigil outside Obama’s alternate Whitehouse might just change the tone.


23 posted on 02/16/2017 11:48:20 PM PST by blackdog
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To: ifinnegan
Melodramatic chicken littles.

Newbies often look for patriots telling the truth and attempt to calm the putrid waters.

24 posted on 02/17/2017 12:01:44 AM PST by itsahoot (Return the power to the people, and Mexico will pay for the wall, 100%)
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To: itsahoot

Ha.

You’re a chicken little and wouldn’t know a noob if he bit you on the tush.

No offense, FRiend.

You can be hysterical if you want.


25 posted on 02/17/2017 12:15:38 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: cherry

“I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if there is a huge homosexual cabal in and around the DC power belt...”

I think that’s absolutely true.


26 posted on 02/17/2017 12:20:17 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: 1_Inch_Group

Idiotic cartoons...


27 posted on 02/17/2017 12:22:50 AM PST by piasa
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To: nikos1121
"It's purely a personal issue," Harward said Thursday evening. "I'm in a unique position finally after being the in military for 40 years to enjoy some personal time."

This is the explanation he is quoted as saying on FNC. I'd say he has given his bit for his country.

28 posted on 02/17/2017 12:23:18 AM PST by Boomer (The modern day leftist dems are the party of criminally insane propagandists.)
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To: ifinnegan

Trump needs to move the entire Federal Government to Texas. Right now it is populated by odumbiloving blacks, liberalAltLeft whites and Illegal Immigrant lovers who populate the demonrat states of Maryland and Northern Virginia.

Time for a change of scenery


29 posted on 02/17/2017 12:24:46 AM PST by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: blackdog

“A few thousand Ceaucescu moment deplorables setting vigil outside Obama’s alternate Whitehouse might just change the tone.”

I like how you think.


30 posted on 02/17/2017 12:24:49 AM PST by semaj (Audentes fortuna juvat: Fortune favors the bold. Be Bold FRiends.)
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To: BeauBo

And then park that department in the Aleutian islands where they can all learn to make their own coffee from a single shared antique percolator ...with a bad filter.


31 posted on 02/17/2017 12:26:42 AM PST by piasa
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To: laplata

I don’t see him quitting. If they render him powerless, I think he would address the nation and spill the beans on everything he knows and everyone he believes is involved in the Deep State.


32 posted on 02/17/2017 12:27:22 AM PST by Right-wing Librarian
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To: TomasUSMC

It’s a good idea, but I don’t know a President has unilateral authority to do that.

That said, the President and congress do have that power, and last I looked the same party has both houses and the White House.


33 posted on 02/17/2017 12:28:16 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Trump_vs_Evil_Witch
This is not just simple opposition.

In Washington, it's traditional that a new Presidential Ad ministration does not investigate and prosecute the previous administration. If a criminal or corrupt government official makes it through to inauguration day, he or she is home free.

This dynamic, especially George Bush's decision to let the Clinton Admin skate on it's corruption, especially transfer of nuclear weapons technology to China, has encouraged massive corruption in Washington

Blatant corruption and lawless behavior reached intolerable levels under Obama to the extent that they became a serious national security threat.

There are a lot of very high level Obama holdovers who were the implementers of the Obama programs such as Fast and Furious, IRS political targeting, support of Islamic Terrorists, ISIS and al-Qaeda, support of Mexican Drug and Human Trafficking Cartels, violent street gangs, the destruction of our military, dumping millions of illegal aliens on America to change the countries demographic balance and a lot of other criminal and treasonous or borderline treasonous acts.

Many more are participants in the criminal graft, corruption abuse of power that was endemic of the Obama Administration.

All need to prosecuted, convicted and the fined and imprisoned.

It's obvious that there are a lot of terrified and desperate people in fear of being held accountable for their actions over the last 8 years of Obama

They are all trying to intimidate Trump to extort a truce with Trump to take the Trump Administration down if he continues to insist on prosecuting Obama era corruption and treason.

The recent riots are, at least in part, intended to goad Trump into actions that allow the opposition to paint him as a police state dictator and undermine any actions he takes against government officials and their private sector allies such as George Soros.

The problem reaches the very highest level of government and we may see some very interesting developments.

34 posted on 02/17/2017 12:38:21 AM PST by rdcbn (.... when Poets buy guns, tourist season is over ...)
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To: cherry; null and void

Gotta admit. I got a weird feeling in my gut.

Maybe it was dinner.


35 posted on 02/17/2017 12:58:30 AM PST by SaveFerris (Hebrews 13:2 Do not forget to entertain strangers, for ... some have unwittingly entertained angels)
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To: DesertRhino

I think a good line to work now is:

“17 intelligence agencies” ?!?!

Why in the world do world do we need 17?

Excellent opportunity to chop necks while consolidating down to about 5.


36 posted on 02/17/2017 1:08:23 AM PST by glorgau
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To: Trump_vs_Evil_Witch

Yes that’s what I think, that and other good stuff he was doing. The pediphilia scandle includes an international human trafficking network. You may have noticed some of the arrests in other countries too. I think he and Pence had some other differences of opinion-it wasn’t just the issue of sanctions.

I suspect Flynn may already have been given some secret position to continue working behind the scenes perhaps overseas. We’ll just have to wait to see what comes out later.


37 posted on 02/17/2017 1:25:30 AM PST by greeneyes
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To: DesertRhino
Robert Bork was touching on truth with (Slouching Towards Gomorrah) and got for his trouble "Borked" as being thrown under the truth bus is known.

IMHO President Trump did a masterful job, presidential if you will with his press conference and earlier with the coal miners etc....just fabulous.

38 posted on 02/17/2017 1:44:55 AM PST by yoe
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To: rdcbn
".. In Washington, it's traditional that a new Presidential Ad ministration does not investigate and prosecute the previous administration. If a criminal or corrupt government official makes it through to inauguration day, he or she is home free. .." Its also traditional for the previous administration to not meddle in, foment violence against, or advocate the overthrow of, the new administration. 0 and his minions have done all three, and the traditions about not investigating and prosecuting don't apply anymore. Treason IIRC hasn't any statute of limitations. Also see the definition ter·ror·ismˈterəˌrizəm/noun the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims. OFA and related orgs are committing treason and terrorism.
39 posted on 02/17/2017 2:15:15 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: seastay

This was a highly unusual move IMO, very suspect. Obama also left Trump a variety of Easter eggs to trip him up and embarrass Trump. What a lowlife loser he is.


40 posted on 02/17/2017 2:17:41 AM PST by databoss
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To: laplata

If Trump resigns; they win and we and our Nation lose. God put Donnie Trump in the Wjite House, and only God can take him out. AFAIC, Trump’s presser on Thursday was “the voice of one crying in the wilderness”. He’s God’s man. Hang tough!


41 posted on 02/17/2017 2:59:14 AM PST by Tucker39 (In giving us The Christ, God gave us the ONE thing we desperately NEEDED; a Savior.)
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To: laplata

You see him resigning? No, he needs to fight.


42 posted on 02/17/2017 3:12:42 AM PST by VermithraxPejorative
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To: Trump_vs_Evil_Witch

The Author wasn’t Tyler Durden. I found the same article on Freedom Outpost and it looks to be Michael Synder’s column. If so he allows basically ever site that wants to to post his material. But he runs three sites, The Truth wins out ended or he left the site. He started a site that for some reason doesn’t get much users called The Most Important Thing and it republishes articles from his other two sites and other things. The other two sites are The Economic Collapse Blog and The End Of The American Dream. Zero Hedge does re-publish Synder’s articles.

Here is the link to the Freedom Outpost article with the same title.

http://freedomoutpost.com/a-civil-war-for-control-of-the-u-s-government-has-erupted-between-the-deep-state-and-donald-trump/

The Link from his The Most Important News site:
http://freedomoutpost.com/a-civil-war-for-control-of-the-u-s-government-has-erupted-between-the-deep-state-and-donald-trump/

P.S. He seems to have quit using The End Of The American Dream blog as it is not updated since May 2016. The Truth Wins Out is also abandoned. I recall they had a new editor in 2014, but it seems to be abandoned.


43 posted on 02/17/2017 3:20:42 AM PST by Mozilla (Truth Is Stranger than Fiction.)
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To: Mozilla

Not that it matter but I posted two links to the Freedom Outpost version by accident. The correct one from The Most Important News site:
http://themostimportantnews.com/archives/a-civil-war-for-control-of-the-u-s-government-has-erupted-between-the-deep-state-and-donald-trump


44 posted on 02/17/2017 3:31:19 AM PST by Mozilla (Truth Is Stranger than Fiction.)
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To: Mozilla

I also have found that Michael Moved his site The End of The American Dream to another location.
The current site:
http://endoftheamericandream.com/

The old site:
http://endoftheamericandream.org/


45 posted on 02/17/2017 3:33:52 AM PST by Mozilla (Truth Is Stranger than Fiction.)
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To: Trump_vs_Evil_Witch

I see what Tyler did.

by Tyler Durden
Feb 16, 2017 8:50 PM

Submitted by Michael Snyder via The End of The American Dream,


46 posted on 02/17/2017 3:42:54 AM PST by Mozilla (Truth Is Stranger than Fiction.)
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To: Trump_vs_Evil_Witch

ping for later consumption


47 posted on 02/17/2017 3:52:28 AM PST by ducttape45 (Every Saint has a past, Every Sinner has a Future!)
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To: Trump_vs_Evil_Witch

Out of all the decades I have been observing presidents come and go, I have NEVER seen the bizarre behavior from the politicians and news media that we are seeing today. I watched the whole news conference Trump did yesterday and then the montage of what the various, I can’t call them reporters, I’ll call them Very Fake News Spewers said about it this morning. The Very Fake News Spewers were the ones that came off as unhinged as they made accusations about President Trump’s behavior at the news conference. They did exactly as he said they would do.

Something has got these people scared out of their wits. Hmmmmmmmmmm....what could it be? What would make them act so crazy? Then when these initials were ‘leaked’ out there CES, NP, BF, MB, TK, DF, JM, LG it was like someone beat on a hornets nest. I thought things were bad when George Bush was president with the Very Fake News Spewers but now that we have something to compare it to, it is obvious he was a DC player. The last eight years under Obama the Very Fake News Spewers sat there in their chairs like they were on Quaaludes.

After having all these years to observe the behaviors of news conferences, something is definitely different this time. I think it’s called DRAINING THE SWAMP AND MEANING IT and they know it. No telling who in the Very Fake News Media is going to be sucked down the drain but there must be some in each agency based on their behavior.

I will be very surprised if lots of evidence to drain the swamp does not come from Mr. and Mrs. Carlos Danger’s computer and secret videos made on the Lolita Express and Epstein’s pedophile island.

Just some observations I have been making.


48 posted on 02/17/2017 4:01:39 AM PST by MagnoliaB (You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime you might find, you get what you need.)
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To: Mozilla

I also got these two sites confused. Both are labeled The Truth Wins Out. Michael T. Snyder abandoned his blog and a unrelated one that is pro gay had the same name.

Michael’s abandoned site:
http://thetruthwins.com/

The gay site:
https://www.truthwinsout.org/

As you can see Michael had renamed his site The Truth Wins. But it is abandoned.


49 posted on 02/17/2017 4:02:18 AM PST by Mozilla (Truth Is Stranger than Fiction.)
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To: laplata

” I can see him resigning if he is completely paralyzed by the shadow Government.”

There is not a snowballs chance in Hell that this happens. You obviously do not know Trump.


50 posted on 02/17/2017 4:07:08 AM PST by Shane (When Injustice Becomes Law, RESISTANCE Becomes DUTY.----T.Jefferson)
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