Skip to comments.Six White House staffers fired after failing security test
Posted on 02/16/2017 6:14:29 PM PST by markomalley
The White House dismissed six aides on Thursday after the staffers failed FBI background checks. Some of the aides were physically "walked out of the building by security" a day earlier.
Those affected had failed the SF86, a Questionnaire for National Security Positions used to determine whether a government employee is eligible for a security clearance. The test takes into consideration a person's credit score, substance use and various personal subjects.
Caroline Wiles was among the six escorted off the property. Wiles worked as Trump's scheduling director and is the daughter of Susan Wiles, who managed Trump's Florida campaign.
Wiles had resigned on Friday before the results of the test were released. She had worked s deputy assistant secretary during the transition period. Sources told Politico she is going to work for the Treasury Department in light of her inability to return to the White House.
The White House did not respond to a request for comment.
And yet Muslim Brotherhood members have been working in the White House for the last eight years....
Probably the credit check gets some of them. Under Clinton it was drug use.
Shows the TRUMP ADMINISTRATION only hires those who are qualified.
...And yet Muslim Brotherhood members have been working in the White House for the last eight years...
There is a difference in the character of a man and a man child who is a cartoon character.
Six? Let me guess...
Mohamed, Mohamed, Mohamed, Mohamed, Mohamed, and...Akbar.
There is no test I’m aware of that reveals recent sexual activity with a goat.
It’s interesting that the three Muslims hackers the Democrats hired passed a background check since they had credit problems.
Drug and credit background? Great! These surely are some indication of clearance-worthy or not. But what about past known subversive associates? That’s an even better indicator, certainly. obama himself, hillary herself could not have passed that one.
Oh, but those were special cases huh?
Background check system changes c2016
Personnel Security Program Regulation (Appendix 8 has adjudication guidelines):
Yet, when are we going to get news of the three Paki brothers, and wife who were hired by Rat congress critters and Debbie washerwoman Shultz, with full access to the government computer systems?
Are they on the streets, in jail, or fled to Pakistan?
maybe Trump could pardon them.. who can pass a background check these days anyway? ;-)
[when are we going to get news of the three Paki brothers, and wife]
Hopefully they are being interrogated.
Normal stuff. Many don’t pass the background checks for mundane reasons
Also, ICPG 704.2 - Adjudicative Guidlines https://www.dni.gov/Ffiles/documents/ICPG/FICPG_704_2.pdf
How the hell do you “fail” a SF86? Are people reporting on this that stupid or do they think the people reading their work are that stupid?
So you tell me...
Must be some extreme vetting that got them.
Well maybe I should send in my resume.
What makes you think they had their backgrounds checked? They did work for democrats after all. We already know in what high regard they hold National Security.
I’ve filled out 3 of them in my time.
no lie detector tests??
Is this real news? If so, it’s a HUGE story, far bigger than Trumps combative Press Conference. This is an earthquake with few precedents.
The article mentions “Caroline.”
From what I've seen, polygraphs are done after the background investigation is completed. In that way they can verify what they've found during the investigation.
Since these people apparently failed the background investigation then there would be no need for a polygraph.
No, it’s a final firming up of the WH staff. Takes a couple months. He is operating with a TRANSITION staff, while he builds the PERMANENT one. Geesh.
Some jobs you just don’t need a security clearance. If Caroline Wiles committed a minor offense sometimes in her past, Trump seems like he’s just trying to be fair-not heartless.
I guess people’s memory are not what they used to be. Back when Billy Jeff Clinton, or as I call him, the Hillbilly Whorehopper, back when over half his nominations and hires could not pass drug screening, he changed hiring practices and hired all of them under some other classification that did not require any urine, hair, or blood samples. Creepozoids all.
You don't "fail" a SF86. The form itself has no "pass/fail" criteria. The document itself is information that you provide for background investigators to check out and validate.
The background investigation resulting from that information may result in prejudicial information and findings.
That information is then submitted to the requesting agency which ultimately decides whether a clearance is granted.
This is the way the system is supposed to work. Readers may recall that Ben Rhodes, Obama’s former Deputy NSA, ran into the same problem back in 2009. He was cleared anyway. I wonder how many other Obama staffers failed their initial background checks and were still given clearances.
Not for the initial check; if they’re moving into specified TS/SCI billets, they will need a polygraph and receive periodic re-exams. Not all TS/SCI positions required a poly, or at least that was the case when I was a military intelligence officer and later, a DoD civilian.
Sounds like some of these folks were only going for Secret clearances, based on the types of positions they were holding. Once again, the system is working the way it should.
Big change from recent Democrat administrations. I remember the quote from Gary Aldrich, the former FBI agent who exposed some of the blatant security problems in the Clinton White House. As he said, famously: “We’re clearing people we ought to be putting handcuffs on.” As he noted, some of the stuff on SF86s from the Clinton staff was absolutely mind-blowing, and the vast majority were still cleared.
“So you tell me...”
I never before heard the SF86 referred to as a test, like you have to get so many correct answers to get a passing grade. It was never presented to me as a test. I don’t see how it can be viewed as a test except maybe as a test of one’s honesty and memory.
It’s been awhile, but I don’t recall that you pass or fail the SF86. You pass or fail the security check for which the SF86 provides information.
Bill Clinton wouldn’t have passed a security check.
I filled one out for my step-son (autistic) a few years back... for a "secret" clearance when he got a job (with other handicapped guys) at the Trident Sub base in WA. Somehow he managed to get approved... has no credit history at all since he can't even read/write.
There is no security clearance process for federal elected officials.
“Forgetting about a drug conviction (yes, I’ve seen that before)
Claiming to have graduated college when degree withheld due to unpaid debts to the school (yes, I’ve seen that before)
Claiming no financial problem but forgetting about having a house foreclosed and two cars repo’d (yes, I’ve seen that one before too)
Being married and giving a on-the-side girlfriend as a reference (yes, I’ve even seen that one once)”
Yeah but the rest of my SF86 was pristine!
An unverifiable test with zero credibility at all.
The only way you can tell if someone is lying when hooked up to a lie detector is if they tell you they are lying.
The SF 86 is the basic application for Federal service. From there, all fed employee applicants have a basic back ground check. Then more as clearance requires. The SF 86 Is not a security questionnaire.
That’s exactly what I thought too. Journalists are truly stupid these days. They didn’t even bother to check what an SF86 was.
“Wiles had resigned on Friday before the results of the test were released. “
The SF86 is not a test. It’s an application. The journalist is referring to this incorrectly. It appears these employees were hired expecting there not to be an issues. But, there were - perhaps even some that you mentioned. But, it wasn’t a test.
I don’t like the credit check system...if a person self discloses a bad credit number prior to hiring and has submitted to a program to repair their credit and to repay their debt, it should not preclude a good job at the white house, especially a loyal to the president sort of worker. Also credit scores are easy to correct once old debts are addressed, often within a year, especially if a person has had a history of making their payments on time over a period of 6 months!
If Habib remembers to take the bell off the collar nobody should know. :)
Under Obama most of his top advisors and staff couldn’t pass a real security check. Jarrett? You’ve got to be kidding. Axelrod, all redded up from Chicago. Van Jones - you’ve got to be kidding. Anita the Maoist Dunn - No Way.
I’m worried the most about Ben Rhodes who is as close to a traitor as I’ve seen yet, despite the competition for that title.
..the goat,....he lies...
On the other hand, I have seen SF86’s where they honestly and openly talked about previous drug use and “passed” the background check.
And if you are completely open and honest about the foreclosure, that will get a “go” also. It is when you “forget” the incident, or slightly change the facts, that it gets you in trouble.
Exactly. I always tell any new person that he/she needs to pretend that this is like going to confession (particularly with an SSBI). It's far better to list everything and be overly scrupulous than to leave something off. There are always mitigating factors for everything except one: attempting to deceive.
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