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NATO insiders suspect staged Turkey coup
Never More ("aldri mer" Norwegian) ^ | 1-25-17 | Kjetil Stormark

Posted on 02/03/2017 7:18:23 AM PST by Texas Fossil


The dominant assessment in NATO is clear: Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan staged the coup against himself.

By KJETIL STORMARK / kjetil@aldrimer.no

Senior NATO sources tell aldrimer.no that they believe Erdoğan staged the coup himself. However, they stress that there is no written NATO documentation for that claim, because it is simply too sensitive. That’s because all member nation’s have the right to access to all intelligence information gathered by the alliance.

1,600 names

But the dominant NATO assessment is quite clear.

«The senior officers, three- and four-star generals, and those who worked with Turkey for 30-40 years and who mentored Turkish officers for four or five years, say they do not believe that there was a coup. If the Turkish Armed Forces wanted to carry out a coup, they would have succeeded. That’s a tradition in Turkey,» said a NATO source, without a hint of irony.

Read more: Dissatisfied over Stoltenberg’s Turkey response

«They had a list of 1,600 names the very next day of people they wanted gone,» he added.

Tanks and warplanes

On Friday, 15 July 2016 Turkish tanks rolled into the streets in Ankara and Istanbul. Two bridges over the Bosporus Strait were closed. Fighter planes  also took off in Ankara, where Parliament and the presidential palace were attacked.

Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan was on holiday in Marmaris, in southern Turkey, but travelled that nigtht to Istanbul by private jet.

The very next morning, reports from Turkey said the coup had been foiled. A systematic and comprehensive purge of military officers, judges and others in the Turkish power apparatus started immediately.

A year of preparation

Some 80-90 per cent of Turkish officers who served in NATO were relieved of their posts, aldrimer.no has learned from reliable sources. Many of those who dared to return home were jailed and a significant number were killed, according to NATO sources.

«Turkish officers who still have contact with NATO said that Erdogan had been planning the so-called coup for a year and had a list of people he wanted out.” said a NATO source. «I have so far not met anyone who believes there was a real coup attempt,» said the source.

Described as narcissist

A think tank that NATO regularly uses has issued a classified assessment of Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan as a  narcissist.

The commercial intelligence report is available to NATO officers and NATO member states through NATO Intelligence Fusion Center (NIFCA).

Broken up

One of the first things Erdogan did after the alleged coup was to split the military and the paramilitary gendarmerie. Those two units were previously organized under the same umbrella and wore the same uniform, although they were different organizations with different objectives.

The gendarmerie, in particular, was loyal to Erdogan and actively participated in the purges after the events in Turkey in mid-July. However,  many Turkish Armed Forces officers also enjoyed promotions after displaying loyalty to the president.

NATO noted that a Turkish officer at NATO’s military headquarters SHAPE in Mons, Belgium, was abruptly promoted from major to colonel.

Declined to comment

Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg declined to comment to aldrimer.no. The NATO press office responded with a written statement it asked to be atributed to a «NATO official». In the statement the press office stated that «the NATO Secretary General has commented publicly on the failed coup and its aftermath, and has discussed these issues with the Turkish political leadership». And went on to add:

«He has made clear that those responsible for the failed coup must be brought to justice, and it is important that this be done with full respect for the rule of law.»

The NATO press office, however, did not respond to aldrimer.nos specific questions about NATO assessments of who was really behind the attempted coup in Turkey in July 2016.

Aldrimer.no has contacted the office of the president of Turkey and offered the president a chance to comment. The office has not responded.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Syria
KEYWORDS: coup; erdogan; muslimworld; nato; turkey; turkeycoup
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Potentially Explosive. Erdogan is an Islamist and no longer fits in scheme with NATO. BUT is this suspicion true? It was stated early on that this is possible. The damage to NATO from this is huge. Russia would like that damage, but if Erdogan actually planned this, it should be admitted. The cost from here are too far reaching.

About the author:

Kjetil Stormark is a journalist, writer and editor with more than 25 years of journalistic seagoing. His specialty is defense and security policy, defense, police, the terrorist attacks on 22 July 2011 in particular and terrorism in general, intelligence, extremism and historical conditions of the Cold War. He has conducted many documentary projects as books and movies. Stormark being widely used as a commentator on the subject areas he covers and is also head of the technical network Hate Speech International, which monitors and investigates hate speech, hate crimes and extremist groups. Stormark is also former PR adviser in JKL Oslo. Stormark was Press Counsellor of the Norwegian UN delegation in New York when Norway was a member of the Security Council in 2001-2002.

note: there is a photo at the source site that I removed. It is said to represent the Turkish government. Not sure source of it, so omitted it.

1 posted on 02/03/2017 7:18:23 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

I came to the conclusion that it was a staged coup the first day that news of it broke.

It took me a few hours to deduce it.

Glad to see that NATO, after months, confirms my deduction.


2 posted on 02/03/2017 7:24:44 AM PST by marktwain (We wanted to tell our side of the story. We hope by us telling our story...)
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To: marktwain

If it was real the tanks would have fired on the “protesters” and no way would Erdogan be walking around, let alone fly back to Ankara or where ever!


3 posted on 02/03/2017 7:32:13 AM PST by gr8eman (The guys who picked last season's loser are already excited about next season's loser.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Good post, thx.
My son just returned from living in Istanbul for 2 years.

He described the tanks rolling into the square and the drivers and other soldiers being unclear why they were there. Long story but his observation immediately was it was a fake coup.

Also says a strong division of those who either like Erdogen or dispise him. Most rural areas are against him.


4 posted on 02/03/2017 7:34:42 AM PST by jcon40 (The other post before yours really nails it for me. I have been a DOS / PC guy forever and always e)
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To: marktwain

I remember seeing that stated here at the time of the coup. Now the consequences are very serious if proven true.

Many high ranking Turkish officers connected to NATO have been killed. Beheaded on a large bridge by the Esedullah. I’m told there are video’s of it. Did not ask to see it. But am sure I could get the link.

Erdogan’s ambition is poison to the already inflamed Middle East.

The chaos there has largely been inflamed by the actions of Obama and Hillary. (for Saudi money)


5 posted on 02/03/2017 7:35:23 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: marktwain

Agreed, this is like saying that Stalin was a totalitarian.


6 posted on 02/03/2017 7:36:39 AM PST by ScholarWarrior
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To: jcon40

“Most rural areas are against him.”

Sounds familiar, exactly what lead up to the last election in the Us.


7 posted on 02/03/2017 7:37:23 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

The chaos there has largely been inflamed by the actions of Obama and Hillary. (for Saudi money)
~!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

And McCain, Graham and Rubio. (for Saudi money)


8 posted on 02/03/2017 7:38:19 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Totally agree. The 2 Clowns are driven by the same money pot.


9 posted on 02/03/2017 7:39:16 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: marktwain

It looked staged from the start. Erdogan is a catastrophe for Turkey and for NATO. Turkey may not be in NATO much longer.


10 posted on 02/03/2017 7:59:10 AM PST by Enchante (Hoping the Clintonistas are gone from our public life forever!!)
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To: Texas Fossil

Mosque-stag.


11 posted on 02/03/2017 8:10:18 AM PST by MUDDOG
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Where ever it leads. We must expose the truth. And in the Middle East, that is very difficult.

Found this quote yesterday:

Truth: the most deadly weapon ever discovered by humanity. Capable of destroying entire perceptual sets, cultures, and realities. Outlawed by all governments everywhere. Possession is normally punishable by death.— John Gilmore

Source is questionable, but there is some truth to the quote.


12 posted on 02/03/2017 8:19:03 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

Well said.


13 posted on 02/03/2017 8:22:44 AM PST by MUDDOG
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To: MUDDOG

Source of that quote, worth reading:

http://www.tentmaker.org/Quotes/truthquotes.htm


14 posted on 02/03/2017 8:30:59 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

Thanks! Those are really good.


15 posted on 02/03/2017 8:40:56 AM PST by MUDDOG
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To: Texas Fossil

The attempted coup against Erdogan has all the hallmarks of a failed decapitation coup. Leader escapes a bombing attack while troops that don’t know what’s going on our brought out to establish order on the streets and are soon disarmed. You can call that fake, but’s exactly how the coup attempt against Hitler played out...


16 posted on 02/03/2017 9:02:35 AM PST by RedWulf (TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!)
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To: Texas Fossil
NATO insiders suspect staged Turkey coup

A logical conclusion of the well informed, NATO or not.

However this source is very interesting being well divorced from the Western MSM Fake news and Prog Propaganda. Thanks very much for it.

NATO is brewing for a compromised disaster if Turkey is allowed to continue membership.

17 posted on 02/03/2017 9:20:28 AM PST by Navy Patriot (America returns to the Rule of Law)
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To: Texas Fossil

Gee ya think considering all of the trials and executions after


18 posted on 02/03/2017 9:38:48 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: marktwain

Yeah, FR did nail it within hours. NATO is very late to the party.


19 posted on 02/03/2017 9:43:34 AM PST by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: RedWulf

In the reports that I read about the supposed coup, there never was an attack against Erdogan himself.

That was one of the “tells” that it was not a serious attempt.

I am open to learning of the attempt at decapitation.

To me, it bears all the signs of an totally compromised “coup” encouraged to happen to expose those Erdogan wanted to rid himself of, and to give him an excuse to perform a purge.


20 posted on 02/03/2017 10:15:52 AM PST by marktwain (We wanted to tell our side of the story. We hope by us telling our story...)
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