Posted on 01/26/2017 9:06:04 PM PST by TigerClaws
If thats the source of this 800k estimate, we all know the real number is many times more than that. Trump is probably much closer to the truth!
If the fraud is as high as just 500,000 votes, forget the presidential race. Look and see if they voted at the state and local levels for congressmen and senators, state politicians, governors, mayors, city councilpeople.
That is where just a small number of fraudulent votes could have made a great difference in swing area and contested areas.
This is what any investigation should look at too.
Since the 90s the politicians have kept telling us it's "just" 12 million illegals (not adults, people). They said we were paranoid nuts when we said it was more. Now it's 20 million adults. With kids it's probably over 30 million. and that's still probably low.
Probably up to 10 million of her votes were pure digital-voting-machine manufactured ones. Can’t wait until we open that can of worms - long overdue.
Yea, Hell, 800,000 - who cares about that?
800,000 granted just for stating the charge. Imagine what a thorough investigation might uncover.
I hope there is a good answer for this question: If you have the list of all those who voted, how can one verify which ones are not U.S. citizens?
I would love for Trump to find 2000 illegal votes in Minnesota and then he could drop a twitter bomb that Al Franken is an illegitimate Senator.
That would be real comedy.
I am so sick and tired of hearing about hacked elections and popular votes........ I hope Trump jams this up their bums so hard they will think they sat on a fire hydrant. Spicer should collect all of the video showing the enemedia blathering away about it and in between each video post the number of illegal votes found in each state with the margins. That would be powerful.
“And then - TOUGH voter ID laws will be passed by Congress, just in time for 2018”
Congress cannot interfere in the methods the states use to choose electors.
The other 2.1 million were actually US citizens. Dead US Citizens, but were either lifelong Democrats or Republicans that switched parties sometime after death...
Lindsay Graham also insisted there was no voter fraud. What an idiot!
People who are here as legal residents should be very wary of doing anything illegal, including voting, because ANY criminal act is grounds for deportation. Why would someone here legally risk that just to vote ?
Minnesota
New Hampshire
New Mexico
Look at the margin of Trump’s supposed loss in those states...
This is all based on surveys following the 2008 and 2012 elections, when illegal immigration were barely issues.
In 2016, when this was a MAJOR difference between the two candidates it would make sense that MANY more illegals voted than admitted to voting in 2008 or 2012. Especially since Obama went on TV and told them not to worry about voting illegally, that ICE wouldn’t find out because there is no link between voting systems and ICE.
If 6.4% ADMITTED to voting when illegal immigration was a non-issue, it could easily have been 15% or more in 2016. That would mean more than 3M illegal votes.
Check against voting rolls, visa lists and SSNs
The study shows that the probability that there were 2.8 million illegal votes is exactly the same as the probability that there were 38,000 illegal votes. So, Trump’s claim that he would have won the popular vote is equally valid as the claim that there was no fraud. That the highest probability is that there were 800,000 suggests that a more thorough study is needed. The press demanded it, the Dems should be happy to get it.
But that is not what Trump is saying. He is saying illegal votes NOT votes of illegals ( though that is included in the illegal votes) Illegal votes also consist of those voting in 2 states (like former New Yorkers voting in New York and Florida), fake voter registrations, and of course the dead, which have all been documented.
California’s ballots are written in a dozen languages...
800,000 for Clinton VOIDS out 800,000 for Trump! Net 1,600,000.
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