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"One Nation Under God." President Trump Chooses Sonny Perdue for Secretary Of Agriculture
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Posted on 01/26/2017 2:23:54 PM PST by davikkm

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To: fortheDeclaration

You gotta know what your talking about and no, we DON’T all know that the Dept of Agriculture is unconstitutional.

Most of the cabinet bureaucracies ARE unconstitutional. Maybe that doesn’t matter to you but it matters to me and should matter to anyone who loves freedom and hates tyranny.

The State Dept, Dept of Defense, the DOJ are examples of constitutional bureaucracies. Labor, HHS, Agriculture, Labor, Education, Energy are examples of unconstitutional bureaucracies

Being stupid about the Constitution doesn’t help anyone. The Constitution is the ONLY legal bulwark of freedom again the tyranny of the feds. The greatest political problem in the U.S. is the mostly unconstitutional federal government. The Constitution DOES delegate certain enumerated and LIMITED powers.

What you need to save is the Constitution. Unconstitutional federal acts are by definition acts of tyranny. Maybe tyranny is OK with you but not me or anyone with half a brain. My fight for freedom isn’t curtailed because some people are stupid about the Constitution. A big part of the fight is TEACHING people to understand their Constitution and understand what part of the federal government is unconstitutional.

So no, every time I see a post about federal entity that is unconstitutional, I’ll post a call to get rid of that entity. Can’t do it enough. We’ve gone on too long just saying, “Oh well”, ignorant, or even worse those supposedly on the Right slapping down those who call for the elimination of the unconstitutional portion of government. So you need to “save it.”


21 posted on 01/26/2017 3:05:05 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: Thibodeaux

Not at all. If there is a commercially-related hindrance to interstate commerce then Congress can constitutionally step in with what is NECESSARY AND PROPER, nothing more.

The Commerce Dept can handle that. The unconstitutional Dept of Agriculture needs to go.

Don’t support the tyranny of the unconstitutional portion of the feds which is our greatest political problem. Support bringing back the Constitution front and center as the Supreme Law of the Land against the feds thereby reinstating the rule of law and a rebirth of freedom.


22 posted on 01/26/2017 3:11:35 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216

The point is that your post is not relevant to anything.


23 posted on 01/26/2017 3:21:03 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Jim 0216

Save it for the posts regarding the limits of government.


24 posted on 01/26/2017 3:21:45 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Abolishing the unconstitutional Dept of Agriculture is relevant to anyone who loves freedom and the Constitution.

Maybe tyranny is OK with you but it is not OK with me. Taking down tyranny is totally relevant.


25 posted on 01/26/2017 3:28:53 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: fortheDeclaration

No, I’m going to remind people that choosing the right person to do the wrong job doesn’t do it. Maybe it’s a step in the right direction, but I’m going to remind you and others that the ultimate goal is not to do the wrong thing the right way but to get rid of the wrong thing altogether.


26 posted on 01/26/2017 3:31:58 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: davikkm

Well, Dr. Purdue is a veterinarian. He certainly has a better grasp of agriculture than many of the people that have held the position in the past.


27 posted on 01/26/2017 4:32:23 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: trisham

Doctor of Veterinary Medicine?

This is awesome.


28 posted on 01/26/2017 6:36:41 PM PST by SisterK (its a spiritual war)
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To: DannyTN; davikkm

And the context of that verse is that it is a time of drought.


29 posted on 01/26/2017 7:23:46 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Jim 0216

You are making a fool out of yourself.


30 posted on 01/26/2017 11:40:37 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration

By trying to reason with an unreasonable and irrational idiot, yes, that is foolish. Don’t post replies back to me. You’re a dead end.


31 posted on 01/27/2017 6:46:14 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216
The 'dead end' are posters like you, who post on threads that have nothing to do with what the thread is about.

That is known as attempting to highjack the thread.

32 posted on 01/27/2017 7:01:30 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Few understand the extent of the 70% to 80% unconstitutional portion of the federal government. I doubt you could articulate why the Dept of Agriculture is unconstitutional.

Until enough people on the Right are clear about the extent of tyranny of the feds which our #1 political problem in America, posting that fact on a thread related to an unconstitutional federal bureaucracy is very relevant.

Trump’s incremental steps are necessary but will not be sufficient. At some point, the job will need to be completed by getting rid of the unconstitutional Dept of Agriculture altogether. Nothing wrong with reminders of the ultimate goal in the context of the first step. That is not hijacking the thread.

The subsequent semi-convoluted discussion with you may be hijacking the thread but if you’re worried about it then you should take it offline on a FReepMail.


33 posted on 01/28/2017 8:05:55 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216
The fact is that the threads you are posting on have nothing to do with the subject you are talking about.

No one cares about your views on the dept of agriculture or any other dept for that matter, when the subject is filling that particular post.

You are indeed hijacking the thread by yapping about getting rid of the dept when the subject has Trump picked to fill it.

There are plenty of threads on the what the role of government should be.

That is where you should be posting, not screaming about abolishing the dept, something most of us on FR take for granted.

34 posted on 01/28/2017 9:08:51 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Most on FR don’t take abolishing most of the cabinet bureaucracies for granted which is why the reminder is important. For example, Mr. Self-Appointed Spokesman for FR, you can’t articulate why the Dept of Agriculture is unconstitutional.

Stop replying to me or take your freaking objections offline it you’re worried about hijacking this thread which YOU are doing.


35 posted on 01/28/2017 9:24:47 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216
Actually the view of FR and most people on it is that we should have a very limited government which would include abolishing most cabinet positions.

So, you aren't telling the majority people on FR anything new, although you would like to think so.

And I will keep responding to you as long as you keep posting to me.

36 posted on 01/28/2017 3:06:35 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration

The issue isn’t limited government per se. The issue is the Constitution. You don’t seem to get that. There is little evidence and you have provided none, that many. let alone most, get that the Dept of Agriculture is unconstitutional.

For example, again, you can’t even explain why the Dept of Agriculture is unconstitutional. You don’t even seem to get that that is the issue, so your unsupported assertion is without merit.


37 posted on 01/28/2017 4:14:21 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216
I don't have to explain why the dept is unconstitutional since that isn't the subject of the thread.

Start your own vanity thread on the subject.

I expect you will be showing up every time a cabinet post is filled that you regard as unconstitutional to warn us the danger.

Pure hubris on your part.

38 posted on 01/29/2017 5:18:45 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Your assertion fails, “We all” do not know that the Dept of Agriculture is unconstitutional and “we all” do not know it needs to be abolished. Again putting in a good person is a step in the right direction which is necessary but, again, not sufficient because ultimately there’s no right way to do the wrong thing. (We’re starting to go around in circles here.)

The title and topic of the thread includes “One Nation Under God” in relation to the Dept of Agriculture. There is only ONE way we can continue to be One Nation Under God, and that is to defeat federal tyranny. The unconstitutional Dept of Agriculture is federal tyranny and pointing that out is relevant not only to this thread, but to the overall objective of the anti-establishment Trump movement - the rebirth of our Free Constitutional Republic - which is what everyone is cheering about.

Your objection is obviously for some other reason than hijacking this thread because YOU have done that with your ongoing confusion about this and your refusal to take this offline. For all I know you’re some kind of Leftist troll with your own hidden agenda here. Either way, unless you have something else to say that is worthwhile or that you haven’t repeated, I’m done with you.


39 posted on 01/29/2017 7:24:29 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216
My objection is that you are just ‘stealing the thread’ with your irrelevant discussion about the Constitutionality of the various cabinet positions.

I didn't 'highjack the thread' since it wasn't me who began discussing a subject that has no relevance to the individual who filled the cabinet post, which was the subject of the thread.

Even in this discussion, you have to bring in your constitutional arguments hoping that someone will admire your 'brilliant insights' that you think no one but yourself are aware of.

So, once again, the topic of the thread wasn't if we should have the Dept of Agriculture, but if the individual who Trump picked to lead it, was a good one.

Your topic had no business being discussed on that thread.

40 posted on 01/30/2017 1:25:38 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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