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North Korean Defector Says Kim Jong-Un’s Control Is Crumbling
nytimes.com ^ | 01/25/2017 | CHOE SANG-HUN

Posted on 01/25/2017 9:14:37 AM PST by BenLurkin

The best way to force change in the isolated North, he continued, is to disseminate outside information there to help ordinary citizens eventually rebel. South Korean TV dramas and movies smuggled from China are already popular in the North, he said.

Another sign of Mr. Kim’s weakening control, Mr. Thae said, is evident at the unofficial markets in North Korea where women trade goods, mostly smuggled from China. The vendors used to be called “grasshoppers” because they would pack and flee whenever they saw the police approaching. Now, they are called “ticks” because they refuse to budge, demanding a right to make a living, Mr. Thae said.

Such resistance, even if small in scale, is unprecedented, he added.

The spread of outside news and market activities could eventually doom Mr. Kim because his regime “can be held in place and maintained only by idolizing Kim Jong-un like a god,” Mr. Thae said. “If he tries to introduce a market-oriented economy to North Korean society, then there will be no place for Kim Jong-un in North Korea, and he knows that.”

But the leader’s efforts to clamp down on information and products from outside North Korea have been unsuccessful because the police accept bribes in exchange for freeing smugglers and people caught watching banned movies and dramas.

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1 posted on 01/25/2017 9:14:37 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Why should we believe him?


2 posted on 01/25/2017 9:16:04 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: BenLurkin

I think the end game is coming. And it will be when China finally decides it’s not worth it anymore. The trick is coordinating taking out Kim with South Korea in a way that won’t result in their borders being overrun with refugees.


3 posted on 01/25/2017 9:16:31 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: jmaroneps37

Always the first concern with guys like that.


4 posted on 01/25/2017 9:16:47 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

China will end this when they see more loss than gain in continuing this dictatorship.


5 posted on 01/25/2017 9:17:54 AM PST by AU72
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To: dfwgator

“I think the end game is coming. And it will be when China finally decides it’s not worth it anymore.”

And President Trump will be the one who “makes it not worth it anymore!” “No more tlade until you fixee the Norks!”


6 posted on 01/25/2017 9:19:53 AM PST by vette6387
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To: AU72

It depends also on what they can get from South Korea for helping to take care of the “North Korea Problem.”

I’m sure it would be based on kicking the US troops out of South Korea in exchange.


7 posted on 01/25/2017 9:20:08 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: BenLurkin

Korea could be to Trump what the Berlin Wall was to Reagan. The parallels are there.


8 posted on 01/25/2017 9:20:17 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (STOP THE TAPE!)
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To: BenLurkin

9 posted on 01/25/2017 9:20:26 AM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: dfwgator

China can put them in their ‘ghost cities’.


10 posted on 01/25/2017 9:22:13 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (****happy dance**** BIGLY!!!!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I can see North Korea being divvied up into zones of Occupation, like Germany after WWII, China, Russia, the US and South Korea would have their areas to administer.

It’s going to take at least a generation before you can even think about reunifying the country. The people there have to be deprogrammed and slowly brought up to speed to the ways of the South and that won’t happen overnight.


11 posted on 01/25/2017 9:24:29 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: jmaroneps37

It’s plausible. Tyranny hates freedom, because in a free society, tyranny cannot exist............


12 posted on 01/25/2017 9:25:58 AM PST by Red Badger (If "Majority Rule" was so important in South Africa, why isn't it that way here?.......)
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The people there have to be deprogrammed and slowly brought up to speed to the ways of the South and that won’t happen overnight.

You're right. It takes ever bit of 24 hours..................

13 posted on 01/25/2017 9:27:50 AM PST by Red Badger (If "Majority Rule" was so important in South Africa, why isn't it that way here?.......)
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To: BenLurkin
I'd figure the Left would love the little urchin. NK is everything the Left would want:

No guns

Complete government control of everything

Abortion on demand

State controlled media

What doesn't NK have the Left doesn't desire?

14 posted on 01/25/2017 9:27:56 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: BenLurkin

Trump should airlift CD’s to them

(or videotapes- they are probably that far behind)

Also send a crew there to take back the Pueblo. Tell them we are coming to get it, and tell them there will be big smoking holes in the ground where their military bases used to be if they give us any crap.


15 posted on 01/25/2017 9:28:43 AM PST by Mr. K ( Trump kicked her ass 2-to-1 if you remove all the voter fraud.)
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To: dfwgator

I always wanted to ask a psychiatrist that. If NK collapses and humanitarian aide comes in from other countries to feed the NK civilians, how do we address the mental state of the NK people, collectively and individually? The NK people have been brainwashed their entire lives and for generations. How does one approach this?


16 posted on 01/25/2017 9:30:02 AM PST by TMA62 (Al Sharpton - The North Korea of race relations)
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To: BenLurkin

Very worrisome, if true.

Failing dictators have a penchant for lashing out before they go down. I hope there are a few reasonable generals left, and they aren’t executed by anti-aircraft guns before it happens.


17 posted on 01/25/2017 9:30:15 AM PST by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals.")
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To: BenLurkin

I keep thinking about that American student who was jailed for fifteen years for taking that propaganda flag from the hotel he was staying in. Will Trump negotiate his release?


18 posted on 01/25/2017 9:32:40 AM PST by SkyDancer (Ambition Without Talent Is Sad, Talent Without Ambition Is Worse)
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To: Mr. K

We should have slipped in a suicide dolphin to detonate under its keel.


19 posted on 01/25/2017 9:32:43 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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Somebody needs to make a short, concise documentary on Nicolae Ceaușescu, translate it into Korean, put it on a medium North Koreans could access, and scatter copies all over the country.
20 posted on 01/25/2017 9:32:59 AM PST by Stosh
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