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U.S. says will prevent China taking over territory in international waters
Reuters ^ | January 23rd, 2017 | by David Brunnstrom and Matt Spetalnick

Posted on 01/23/2017 2:20:49 PM PST by Mariner

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To: ConservativeMind

Great on your autographed copy of “Free to Choose.” Did ya read it?

Yeah, I spent 15 minutes chatting with Ronald Reagan (true), but I’m not going to use that to bolster my credibility in this discussion.

One of your comments I’ll respond to.

“We grew the fastest under tariffs” -

So you blithely assume that it was Tariffs that helped the growth, without considering other factors. It depends on which source you read, but I’m more inclined to conclude that Tariffs had less to do with real US growth during US growth periods than the industrial revolution, technology changes, and growth in the labor force.

It’s pointless for me to try to convince you as you seem to have your unyielding preference for tariffs and trade wars and you started this pleasant interchange with an unnecessarily condescending ad-hom “you don’t know much about economics.”

If you read your Milton Friedman book, you’ll find answers to most of your economic questions. I challenge you to find a Milton Friedman quote that supports Trump’s trade protectionist stance.


61 posted on 01/23/2017 5:24:49 PM PST by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: A CA Guy

Oh he probably agreed with the idea China would have a choke point down there.

Anything to limit the U.S. in the future you know.


62 posted on 01/23/2017 5:35:52 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Obama, Clinton, McStain, and Graham, with people like this, who needs enemies?)
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To: MrShoop

China is holding a virtual nuke over our heads.<<

Does your “virtual” girlfriend do the same to you ?


63 posted on 01/23/2017 5:39:27 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: AlanGreenSpam

Let’s try an exercise:

1. If all trade is allowed between countries, but all countries have a 10% excise tax, is that considered “free trade?”

2. If all trade is allowed between countries, but all countries have a 10% VAT, is that “free trade?”

3. If all trade is allowed between countries, but all countries have a 10% income tax, is that “free trade?”

Also, in order, which tax situation is healthiest for the countries?

And yes, I read his book.


64 posted on 01/23/2017 5:44:28 PM PST by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticides, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: M-cubed

65 posted on 01/23/2017 6:03:00 PM PST by Wayne07
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To: MrShoop

Whoops!...Sorry!..Didnt mean to hit so close to home....I was just wondering your definition of “virtual”....


66 posted on 01/23/2017 6:20:55 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: Mariner

NUKE CHINA

I play Fallout 4, I know that China attacks us in 2077

NUKE CHINA NOW


67 posted on 01/23/2017 6:23:22 PM PST by Lazamataz (TRUMP LIED TO ME!!!! ....He said I'd get sick of winning.... AND I'M NOT SICK OF WINNING YET!!!!)
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To: AlanGreenSpam

Did you really just post an article from Conservative Review?

Are you sure you have the right site?


68 posted on 01/23/2017 6:35:03 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: AlanGreenSpam

Friedman said you cannot have totally free trade and a welfare state at the same time. They cannot coexist.


69 posted on 01/23/2017 6:38:44 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Mr. Trump has considered China to be our biggest problem for as long as I remember his opinions being on the news and stuff.


70 posted on 01/23/2017 6:41:41 PM PST by ichabod1 (Make America Normal Again)
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To: MrShoop
Until we can rebuild significant manufacturing capacity back in the US, China is holding a virtual nuke over our heads.


Yes. What China is doing is wrong. But, we must address our economic problems, debt., immigration etc. before confronting them.
71 posted on 01/23/2017 6:44:42 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie ( Agenda driven news is fake news.)
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To: MrShoop

Retaining critical industries is a perfectly good reason for tariff barriers. Despite the free trader’s howls.


72 posted on 01/23/2017 6:45:55 PM PST by ichabod1 (Make America Normal Again)
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To: Spktyr

Like they say about buying guitars: you can get one built by a mexican here, or you can get one built by a mexican in Tijuana, but with the Tijuana one you get better paint.


73 posted on 01/23/2017 6:48:41 PM PST by ichabod1 (Make America Normal Again)
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To: Mariner

If the islands are in international waters and not sovereign, we can bomb it.


74 posted on 01/23/2017 7:11:50 PM PST by Tai_Chung
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To: Tai_Chung

China claims the islands AND the surrounding seas.


75 posted on 01/23/2017 7:17:47 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Bobalu

It’s not that simple. India can’t replace China’s production in a short time. China has a far better educated and far more modern society. And far better infrastructure. India is shockingly poor and backwards. Few Arabs would trade places with the average Indian. The percentage of everything in each country that has been brought up to something resembling Western standards is hugely higher in China.

We can offset trade with trade with China by moving production to a broad range of developing countries. But China is in business for itself now. We have given them the tools to produce without us.


76 posted on 01/23/2017 7:22:25 PM PST by WatchungEagle
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To: Mariner
Don’t even answer their calls over hailing frequencies.

Shields up.

77 posted on 01/23/2017 7:36:57 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (The fear of stark justice sends hot urine down their thighs.)
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To: M-cubed

“virtual means the quality of effecting something without actually being that something.”


78 posted on 01/23/2017 8:40:27 PM PST by Wayne07
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To: DoughtyOne

Although they could send their women as a peace offering.


79 posted on 01/23/2017 9:12:16 PM PST by RitchieAprile
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To: Mariner
They don’t have enough nukes to hold one over heads.

How many more than 1 do they need?


80 posted on 01/23/2017 9:52:29 PM PST by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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