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When Discussing Obamacare, Remember the UniParty Supports It…(Ryan, McCarthy, McConnell Cornyn)
The Last Refuge ^ | January 16, 2017 | sundance

Posted on 01/17/2017 5:43:11 AM PST by xzins

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1 posted on 01/17/2017 5:43:11 AM PST by xzins
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It makes sense. These folks didn’t bow to Obama just because of legislative necessity. They were probably on his side.


2 posted on 01/17/2017 5:44:02 AM PST by xzins (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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Our company joined the local CoC for networking purposes. They will lose our membership today


3 posted on 01/17/2017 5:51:59 AM PST by Navin Johnson
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Our company joined the local CoC for networking purposes. They will lose our membership today
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The author makes a point to say that local Chambers of commerce are not the same.

From article:
“The U.S. Chamber of Commerce is not even remotely similar to the local Chambers’ of Commerce that most people might be familiar with. The U.S. CoC sets the legislative priorities for congress and tells Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan what to do.”


4 posted on 01/17/2017 5:54:24 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: xzins

The US Chamber of Commerce is the enemy of the citizens.
They are the engineers of the Cheap Labor Express.


5 posted on 01/17/2017 6:01:34 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents)
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To: xzins

I have been saying this for a Long Time, they will NOT Repeal Obamacare.

The only way to force the issue is for President Trump to issue an Executive Order repealing ALL Waivers and Require ALL Federal Employees, except the Military to immediately enroll in and purchase their own Personal and Family Health Insurance from the Affordable Care Exchange in the State they Legally reside. This will Include CONgress and the ENTIRE Federal Judiciary.

Then and Only then will there be any chance of repeal. MAKE THEM SUFFER!!!


6 posted on 01/17/2017 6:05:47 AM PST by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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To: xzins

DJT needs to give Rat Ryan a severe beat down. Maybe then he’ll stop running his mouth about amnesty and slow walking ACA repeal.


7 posted on 01/17/2017 6:06:53 AM PST by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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Some strategy to unite Trumps opponents behind Trump is crucial.

1. He could hint they are lying about repeal.

2. He could appeal by Twitter to his 20 million followers to get on their representatives.

3. One vote at a time, he has to walk his objectives through house and senate, both of which each have a process designed to deceive about what they are actually doing.

4. We must respond to Trump’s call for people’s intervention with their reps.


8 posted on 01/17/2017 6:10:05 AM PST by xzins (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: Ray76

I suspect Trump’s stating his purpose is coverage for all has put Ryan’s feet in the fire.

Ryan is talking “access for all”, and that will undercut Trump’s promise to repeal and REPLACE.


9 posted on 01/17/2017 6:13:34 AM PST by xzins (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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Replace it with a free market. Government IS the problem. Plunking down a big pot of gold guarantees prices go up. Add in needlessly complex reimbursement schemes increases administrative overhead. On and on.

De-governmentalize and de-insuranceize routine care. Insurance is for disasters, not maintenance. And fedgov has no authorization whatsoever to pay for or provide insurance or health care.


10 posted on 01/17/2017 6:22:50 AM PST by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: xzins

Keep in mind the actual vote had ZERO republican votes in favor.


11 posted on 01/17/2017 6:24:31 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed)
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Ryan wants access for all and Trump wants insurance for all. Which is worse?


12 posted on 01/17/2017 6:27:46 AM PST by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors (at the time of election!)
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How are the words “access for all” and “coverage for all” different?

1. Access means a lot of people do not have coverage.

2. Coverage means that everyone has some kind of coverage.

Since Trump is no dummy, what do you think he is thinking?

IIRC, when the obamacare debate started years ago, the claim was that something like ONLY 20 million had no POLICY coverage at all. Do you remember the same thing?


13 posted on 01/17/2017 6:30:35 AM PST by xzins (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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True, but we know how votes work in the Congress. If it will pass and your vote isn’t needed, then you can vote against.

How many republicans did that?


14 posted on 01/17/2017 6:31:54 AM PST by xzins (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: Lisbon1940

Should have pinged you to #13. What do you think?


15 posted on 01/17/2017 6:32:40 AM PST by xzins (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: xzins

You tell me

https://books.google.com/books?id=PV6qZU_xev8C&lpg=PP1&dq=The%20America%20We%20Deserve&pg=PT258#v=onepage&q&f=false


16 posted on 01/17/2017 6:35:06 AM PST by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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"De-governmentalize and de-insuranceize routine care."

Dr Price's bill ( HR2300 or HR3200 ? ) has a tax credit for everyone to go and purchase HSA insurance ( esentially catastrophic ) and you can legally pay for ( with your tax free dollars via the credit ) a Direct Primary Care Plan which is routine care on retainer with no paperwork.

Brilliant...

17 posted on 01/17/2017 6:35:39 AM PST by taildragger (Do you hear the people singing? The Song of Angry Men!....)
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To: Ray76

A most excellent post. Well done.

Government should not be in the insurance business. Or any other business that private enterprise can provide more effectively and efficiently.

Once the government gets its tentacles into something it wants complete control. Politics inevitably take over and economic based decisions go out the window.


18 posted on 01/17/2017 6:41:06 AM PST by Starboard
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To: xzins

I can’t remember the numbers in 2008. Back then everyone had access if they could afford it. Many couldn’t, but at least they had access.


19 posted on 01/17/2017 6:46:41 AM PST by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors (at the time of election!)
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To: taildragger

A “Health Care Savings Account” is not insurance.

Fedgov habitually manipulates the tax code to develop “solutions”, such as

health care savings accounts
IRAs (etc)
education savings accounts

to name a few.

How about reduce taxes and let individuals save or invest however they wish?

The federal government IS the problem. They must be put back within Constitutional bounds. Their socialist programs are a disaster. The are bankrupting the government and wrecking the economy.


20 posted on 01/17/2017 6:50:53 AM PST by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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