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Oil, Trump, leave Mexico in dire economic straits
UPI ^ | 11 January 2017 | Daniel J. Graeber

Posted on 01/13/2017 9:32:57 AM PST by Lorianne

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To: A CA Guy
Our 20% of America doing recreational drugs have supporting led the rise of cartels and have funded terrorism in several places.

Now that's funny. There will always be recreational drug use in America, regardless of legality.

It's Prohibition, and its associated tyrannical ramifications, which have led to the rise of cartels and funded terrorism, not to mention the destruction of the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution (among others).

Whether its rationalizations emanate from the Left or Right, the Authoritarian Mind is a wonder to behold...

41 posted on 01/13/2017 2:02:54 PM PST by sargon (The Revolution is ON! Support President-elect Trump!)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

It all started with Texas. Later, after the dust settled, it even concerned the Lincoln administration so much that they had Grant send Sheridan to the border with arms for the republican forces, at which time the French decided they didnt want anything to do with fighting which might involve ourselves.

Grant scoffed at the whole thing. He states in his civil war memiors that it was the royalty in europe who were the prime instigators in the whole affair at that time. After all, they were all cousins.

If you read the rolls of the euro troops in Mexico, there were a couple other countries who had provided troops also.

I often wonder if there was a war with France over Mexico at that point just after our civil war, how fast would we have beat the hell out of them. I know one thing, it wouldnt have been pretty since our troops were experienced veterans.


42 posted on 01/13/2017 4:13:51 PM PST by crz
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I often wonder if there was a war with France over Mexico at that point just after our civil war, how fast would we have beat the hell out of them. I know one thing, it wouldnt have been pretty since our troops were experienced veterans.
Already by 1820, the British understood that a reprise of the War of 1812 would lose Canada. Which is part of why the War of 1812 was a mistake; it was only necessary to temporize for a few years before the British would have decided it was time to let sleeping dogs lie. It was a simple matter of arithmetic; the US population was growing geometrically, and the men who would have conquered Canada in 1820 were already strapping boys in 1812.

For any country to undertake to fight the US in North America in 1865 would have been the Nineteenth Century equivalent of getting involved in a land war in Asia. As Lincoln put it,

"Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant to step the ocean and crush us at a blow? Never! All the armies of Europe, Asia, and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest, with a Bonaparte for a commander, could not by force take a drink from the Ohio or make a track on the Blue Ridge in a trial of a thousand years. At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer. If it ever reach us it must spring up amongst us; it cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide.”

43 posted on 01/13/2017 5:02:17 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Exactly. In fact, Moses Austin was invited to settle specifically to have white (new) “Mexian citizens” pacify the land & secure it from Indians.


44 posted on 01/13/2017 10:03:38 PM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Just adopt Mexico’s Immigration Laws and watch the screaming begin. Goose meet Gander.


45 posted on 01/13/2017 10:38:07 PM PST by Kickass Conservative ( Democracy, two Wolves and one Sheep deciding what's for Dinner.)
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Mexico has never been a state. What it is and always has been is a racist kleptocracy where it's politicians steal everything in sight and blame the United States.
46 posted on 01/14/2017 9:11:08 AM PST by jmacusa (Election 2016. The Battle of Midway for The Democrat Party.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Comancheria vs the Second United States Cavalry


47 posted on 01/16/2017 4:00:22 PM PST by Pelham (the refusal to Deport is defacto Amnesty)
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