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Oil, Trump, leave Mexico in dire economic straits
UPI ^ | 11 January 2017 | Daniel J. Graeber

Posted on 01/13/2017 9:32:57 AM PST by Lorianne

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To: Lorianne

And about time, too. Mexico is ruled by a few oligarchical families—with the one controlled by Carlos Slim Helu at the top of the pile. They have the potential to be one of the richest countries in all of Latin America if they can get a decent government not dominated by those oligarchs.


21 posted on 01/13/2017 10:08:22 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Lorianne

Thank you for that information. Like Venezuela.....the money never gets to the people. Cuba...Castro died one of the wealthiest man on earth.


22 posted on 01/13/2017 10:14:10 AM PST by ColdOne (( I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11~ Trump should get a Russian Wolfhound for first pet in WH.)
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To: Lorianne

He’ll end up begging to pay for the wall.


23 posted on 01/13/2017 10:15:09 AM PST by bigbob (We have better coverage than Verizon - Can You Hear Us Now?)
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To: Lorianne

They sent us 30 million welfare parasites, rapist, gangsters and criminals, populated our schools with millions of anchor babies, flooded our hospital emergency room with every disease known (some unknown) and now have the nerve to complain about dire circumstances?

I want them to suffer greatly.


24 posted on 01/13/2017 10:20:00 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus
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To: Lorianne
Trump is having a negative effect on Mexico because investors in Mexican assets know that the Mexican economy is propped-up by remittances from illegal aliens in America. It that artificial support diminishes significantly then Mexico economy will be in serous trouble and so will be their investments.
25 posted on 01/13/2017 10:28:18 AM PST by WMarshal ( Schadenfreude, it feels so good!)
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To: Lorianne

People create wealth. Government creates poverty.


26 posted on 01/13/2017 10:57:53 AM PST by captain_dave
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To: Lorianne; crz
I can’t argue with that. Is there a former Spanish colony that is not screwed up?
American Beliefs: What Keeps a Big Country and a Diverse People United by John Harmon McElroy compares and contrasts the colonialism of England, France, Portugal, and Spain. I discussed that in this reply on an FR thread:
Spain found bronze-age civilization, and conquered them in a conventional manner as they would have liked to have done in Europe, especially England. Since they found a going concern their only interest was in dominating and exploiting it, rather than creating it. So the only people they sent to their colonies were soldiers and gentlemen to be in charge. No Spanish peons need apply.

27 posted on 01/13/2017 11:10:21 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: Yashcheritsiy
If Trump sends the illegals back, it could cause social revolution in Mexico.

Trump quickly became the leading contender for the Republican nomination, primarily because of his promise to seal the southern border and eject the illegal aliens from our country.

It's his signature promise to the American people, and more than any other reason, why he's now President-elect. He absolutely must (and very much can) deliver on this. The consequences of failing to do so, are almost too grim to contemplate, so it's a safe bet that he'll get it done.

Ironically, by forcing the tens of millions of Mexicans to return to their country, he will ultimately help Mexico great for the first time in its history.

28 posted on 01/13/2017 11:38:25 AM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Lorianne

We have been allowing our cousin Eduardos to the south to park in our driveway for long enough—draining their holding tanks into our storm sewer, mooching and lowering property values, stealing the jobs that weren’t sent south, their narco-terrorist cartels hurting us by bringing in drugs and trafficking their countrymen and children, committing crimes and burdening our jails and prisons.
As Trump suggested at his press conference, as far as Mexico goes and other countries taking advantage of Americans with sharp, one-sided trade practices for 25 years—we’ve been `Clark Griswold’ long enough.
It’s going to change. They don’t have to like it.


29 posted on 01/13/2017 11:46:06 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers, all armed conservatives)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

In short..they were a bunch of thieves. But, I must admire the English. They let them steal everything from the natives, and then took it away from the Spanish.

Maybe we ought to learn from the Brits history and do the same to the drug cartels. Steal their money. Just a thought.


30 posted on 01/13/2017 11:46:40 AM PST by crz
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To: Lorianne

Mexico needs the US more than we need them


31 posted on 01/13/2017 11:52:52 AM PST by stocksthatgoup (Imagine that)
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To: Lorianne

They’ll be courting China next. There going to need a punch or two in the gut.


32 posted on 01/13/2017 11:55:07 AM PST by Stentor
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To: tumblindice
...cousin Eduardos...

Don't have the ability to put a sombrero on cousin Eddie.

33 posted on 01/13/2017 11:58:35 AM PST by Stentor
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To: Lorianne

Why doesn’t the Mexican president call back his best and brightest who are here in the USA illegal that have plenty of time to wave Mexican flags at protests? If illegal Mexicans are so important to the economy, so hard working, so productive, so profitable, why not call them back to rebuild that hell hole?


34 posted on 01/13/2017 12:03:33 PM PST by Organic Panic (Rich White Man Evicts Poor Black Family From Public Housing - MSNBCPBSCNNNYTABC)
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To: Lorianne
Perhaps Messy-co could try reforming their government and try to come into the 21st century. The place, all these years, still looks like a cesspool. Abject poverty everywhere. A few families suck up all the wealth while the majority suffer. Shameful. We should have invaded this country decades ago.
35 posted on 01/13/2017 12:16:31 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: Uversabound
A few decades ago, Mexican illegals at least stayed in the shadows, were somewhat humble and careful.

Now, as you say. They treat Americans with contempt...IN OUR OWN COUNTRY mind you.

They act as if we stole their land, as if we owe them. They proudly fly their shameful flag in this land as if they are proud to be from Messy-co.

Good grief.

36 posted on 01/13/2017 12:20:33 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: crz; Lorianne
LS made the interesting point that when the US under James K. Polk took possession of what is now the US Southwest, it was not actually taking possession from Mexico. Although Mexico considered that it inherited a valid claim to the land from the Spanish, the indigenous tribes had never accepted the authority of the Spanish or the Mexican governments. And, de facto, the tribes had been able to keep Mexico from exerting effective control there.

Thus it was the US, with its army and its railroads and its European immigrants which conquered that land. Not Mexico, and not Spain. Spain’s title was recognized in Europe, but its writ never ran on the ground. Again, the difference between the Spanish approach of taking over an existing (even wealthy) civilization and exploiting it, and the English, later US, approach of taking over land via ownership by farmers imported from Europe. Just sending in an army worked to exploit an existing civilization; it took farmers to provide a sufficient base of support for sufficient soldiers to conquer and hold wilderness.


37 posted on 01/13/2017 1:29:08 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: LS

Ping to #37 above.


38 posted on 01/13/2017 1:30:43 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: Lorianne

Mexico is beautiful but government can be bought off, no guns or second ammendment and cartels wealth rule the day.

Our 20% of America doing recreational drugs have supporting led the rise of cartels and have funded terrorism in several places.


39 posted on 01/13/2017 1:36:54 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Lorianne

“I can’t argue with that. Is there a former Spanish colony that is not screwed up?”

Florida, depending upon your definition of “screwed up.”


40 posted on 01/13/2017 1:56:07 PM PST by PLMerite (Lord, let me die fighting lions. Amen.)
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