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Hate Crime Legislation a Good Idea That Went Bad
Townhall.com ^ | January 12, 2017 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 01/12/2017 4:34:58 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 01/12/2017 4:34:58 AM PST by Kaslin
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2 posted on 01/12/2017 4:35:57 AM PST by Kaslin ( Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible)
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Hate Crime laws were always idiotic. They only make sense when the crime itself is relatively minor, such as vandalism (even then its probably still idiotic). When the crime is already horrible (such as kidnapping and torturing a mentally disabled person), you don’t really need to add extra charges on it...these people should never be allowed out in public again regardless.


3 posted on 01/12/2017 4:39:40 AM PST by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: Kaslin

All crime is hate crime... the penalties should be severe as a deterrent ... these four should get life for their murder attempt...


4 posted on 01/12/2017 4:41:02 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: Kaslin

It was always a bad idea, inherently racist and the day will come when it is used for racial persecution.


5 posted on 01/12/2017 4:44:11 AM PST by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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To: Kaslin

The concept of a “hate” crime is contrary to our Constitution.
A law should simply state the offense and the consequences. There shouldn’t be a rider they can heap on top to modify it.
Besides, all violent crimes are hate inspired. Nobody would commit a violent crime against someone they liked.


6 posted on 01/12/2017 4:45:40 AM PST by BuffaloJack
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“In our hypersensitive and litigious society, too many agendas have warped the once-noble idea of hate-crime legislation.”

“hate-crime” legislation was NEVER a noble idea, it was always directed only at white people, Christians, heterosexuals, and most often white males, and was ALWAYS politicized from the get go.


7 posted on 01/12/2017 4:46:32 AM PST by euram
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The problem is the black on white violence
(Holdering) is PROTECTED by the DO”J” and FB”I”.

Protected so much, that CBS changed the races
and LIED about what was said.

Give them death or life in prison, along with
removing the license of CBS, and it will end.


8 posted on 01/12/2017 4:48:08 AM PST by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: escapefromboston

Aside from being idiotic, if they can’t even call it like it is, that this was pure racism on a par with the KKK, just because the perps were black, then f@#$ it.


9 posted on 01/12/2017 4:48:17 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Kaslin

The were never a “good” idea in the first place! The law already forsees that crimes my be committed with malice and / or are premeditated - which “worsens” the sentence someone might receive.

“Why” that malice is there is immaterial.


10 posted on 01/12/2017 4:48:24 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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....just watched a segment on FOX29 out of Philly
where some dyke was all wee weed up over trannies
being raped attacked and murdered (24 in 2015...22 in 2016) across the nation....ranting on about TRUMP has to have AG’s across the nation address this crime.....another case of selective rage


11 posted on 01/12/2017 4:50:13 AM PST by Doogle (( USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: An.American.Expatriate

How can any crimes be punished worse than the death penalty or being locked up until you die in prison?


12 posted on 01/12/2017 4:52:21 AM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: Williams

The only context in which it makes sense is a crime committed in order to provoke a race war, because then the motive is to expand the act into a political statement, or signal to the masses. To call it a hate crime just because a violent perp screams a racial epithet while assaulting someone is plain dumb.


13 posted on 01/12/2017 4:54:44 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Kaslin

I have always supported very long sentences for rapists, murderers, armed robbers, child molesters, and other violent criminals. The point, when we cannot just execute them and permanently remove a threat to the innocent, is to warehouse them and remove a predator from society for years or preferably for decades.

I have also always opposed the classification of “hate crimes”. Violent crimes are not committed out of love, and the precise motive for unprovoked violence is not terribly important. Lock them all up, whether they hate gays, blacks, Jews, or everybody, or just like hurting people.


14 posted on 01/12/2017 4:55:03 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Kaslin

“Hate crime” laws, just like the “Civil Rights” laws, were designed to legislate the Liberal agenda on America! They were SOLD to America as “noble causes”, but they were never intended to be used for any semblance of good - PERIOD!

Both of those laws are just like the term “assault rifle”! They are nothing but trigger words designed to solicit a viral response from a dumbed-down populace.

The Civil Rights laws REMOVED the rights of business owners and the right to association, etc...


15 posted on 01/12/2017 5:10:27 AM PST by ExTxMarine (Public sector unions: A & B agreeing on a contract to screw C!)
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To: BuffaloJack

Hate crime legislation is a war and a militarization of police. IT makes someone thinking something an enemy of the state just as a muslim should be for good reasons thought to be a suspicious foreign individual regardless of nationality.

Hate crime legislation should not be a language of our civilian justice system but at best something our military handles against foreign actors, ie muslims, communists and Nazis.

It should not be domestically used.

There is a better word than hate crime, which is treason and traitor crimes!


16 posted on 01/12/2017 5:13:06 AM PST by lavaroise (s)
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Hate crime is by definition thought crime


17 posted on 01/12/2017 5:14:03 AM PST by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Macroagression melts snowflakes)
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To: Kaslin
Hate Crime Legislation a Good Idea

No, was never a good idea.

18 posted on 01/12/2017 5:15:34 AM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: Kaslin

The concept of “hate crimes” merely stands for the proposition that some victims are more important than others.


19 posted on 01/12/2017 5:24:15 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Kaslin

“Hate crime” excuses crimes against hated groups.

Orwellian.


20 posted on 01/12/2017 5:36:42 AM PST by nonsporting
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