Posted on 01/06/2017 1:20:53 PM PST by SeekAndFind
It's been 'reported' for over a year; factually PROVING; how our media has been trying to help Hillary Clinton Win By "Discrediting" Trump!
This whole plot is a MASSIVE; Look Over There!!!; attempt to sully (sorry Tom Hanks) the yet to be started Presidency of Trump.
Payback is NOT gonna be pretty!!!
It boils down to this...... what specifically did Russia do to influence the election?
Is the claim that the Wikileaks dump of clinton and podesta and DNC email was provided by Russia?
If not that, What?
Who died for providing he e mails? Was he working for the Russians?
I'm contacting my information provider TODAY!!!
Why don't I receive this channel NOW???!!!
——Payback is NOT gonna be pretty!!!-—
Someone last evening said it boils down to faith. The Intel guys are pitted against the Wikileaks guy. Who ya gonna believe?
There are “secret” reports we will never see describing the sources. Faith is required to believe that.
Assange claims the Russians didn’t do it. He has put out a reward for the killer of Seth Richards the murdered DNC apparatchik many think is the actual source. That is, the hack is really a pretty much ordinary leak
Being a long time FReeper conspiracy believer, I go with Wikileaks and dead Seth Richards. It is Occam’s Razor, the most simple likely hood.
You are right about the distraction. To have betrayal from within that cost untold years of lost power is a terrible catastrophe. The source had to be a terrible enemy. A friendly source is simply intolerable to consider.
Regarding payback. The Fox Panel was almost in agreement...... move on.
Since we routinely read Putin’s mail, what form can the payback take. If Putin actually did it, it was in effect payback for American cyber espionage.
The key is solving the murder of Seth Richards
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That’s all they got? them whining about the “paid trolls” hired by Russia to harm Hillary make me laugh.
I can see how this managed to persuade vast numbers of voters......
...Yup, I saw Putin do that too. He also made her call half the country deplorable, and stopped her from seriously campaigning during the final month.
RT America TV, a Kremlin-financed channel operated from within the United States, has substantially expanded its repertoire of programming that highlights criticism of alleged US shortcomings in democracy and civil liberties.
So?
"...who, being themselves but fallible and uninspired men, have assumed dominion over the faith of others, setting up their own opinions and modes of thinking as the only true and infallible, and as such endeavoring to impose them on others, hath established and maintained false religions over the greatest part of the world, and through all time;...that it is time enough for the rightful purposes of civil government, for its officers to interfere when principles break out into overt acts against peace and good order; and finally, that truth is great and will prevail if left to herself, that she is the proper and sufficient antagonist to error, and has nothing to fear from the conflict, unless by human interposition disarmed of her natural weapons, free argument and debate, errors ceasing to be dangerous when it is permitted freely to contradict them. ""I HAVE SWORN UPON THE ALTAR OF GOD ETERNAL HOSTILITY TO EVERY FORM OF TYRANNY OVER THE MIND OF MAN"--The Virginia Act For Establishing Religious Freedom
--Thomas Jefferson, 1786https://www.google.com/webhp?#q=truth%20is%20great%20and%20will%20prevail%20if%20left%20to%20herself
I concur completely, nooby that I am, :)
Do you suspect the libs and media (but I repeat myself) ever “think” through on their Russians hacked the election claim?
So the end of it is that Hillary could be deluded enough to deny that she lost the election so she can still run for the Dem nomination in four years?
Let her run.
Correct. The report deals with assessment of the leaks and attempts to influence the election. The damage that was done that everyone is complaining about was that the truth came out. The DNC and media are and have been colluding against primary challengers and against the RNC in the general elections to win. It was (still is) a rigged system.
Sounds like politics to me.... meh...
Excellent Summation:
I have not read it yet. I assume if they had a smoking gun, it would have been emblazoned in every headline in the country.
Therefore, I assess, and I agree with myself completely, that this whole thing is BS.
I also assess that these people will be out of their jobs in two weeks. I would say 14 days, but someone would call me a neo-nazi!
by odawg
The combined intell report is all over the place.
Why would Putin and company want to hurt Hillary’s presidential campaign since she has always been so incompetent that she would be the Kremlin’s best ally because of self-inflicted damage (Libya, Syria, Arab Spring, etc)?
I would go along with a finding that the Russians hacked or tried to Hack the DNC and other governmental and private organizations and agencies. They have been doing it since at least the 1930’s, if not earlier. Read about the Venona Papers if you want to learn more (Haynes, Klehr & Vassilliev and and Romerstein & Breindel plus Romerstein & Evans, for a starter).
The Kremlin has had its agents and sympathizers inside the White House, Congress, the media and academia since the 1920s so why upset the information-gathering and disinformation dissemination programs already in place by doing something stupid such as helping Trump, to win?
Trump is feisty, a counterpuncher and his own man (for good or bad), but he’s much stronger as an American than is Hillary, Kerry and esp. Comrade President Obama (who never met a red he didn’t like or learn from).
If I were “KGB” Putin, I would do everything to stop Trump, not help him.
Now, taking the other view, Putin and the Boys in the Kremlin may have thought that since Hillary was so unstable that it would be better to try and work with/against Trump by having him “closer” rather than “farther” away from the diplomatic table.
The Soviets often played both sides of the street at the same time with plans that either strategy would be a “winner” for them. They are not dumb, these Boycheks. I have a great deal of respect for their abilities to make trouble and undermine our society.
We should all assume that with our national lack of awareness, esp. among the political organizations and some branches of government (remember the OPM hacking?) of cybersecurity, and the incompetence of the Dept. of Homeland Security (they fired people who raised alarms about our weaknesses), that our enemies have been and are going to attack us in every way possible.
The Intell community could be right on their assessments of what supposedly happened (it is rightfully classified for security reasons but their PR program has been a total failure). They could be wrong, or they could be in the middle somewhere.
First you have to acknowledge who the “enemy/enemies” are before you can formulate counterplans and strategies. Under Obama, who liked to surrender or retreat as much as he liked to play golf, the US was thrust backwards in terms of proactive intelligence planning and ops, with the greatest setbacks being in Iraq and Iran, Libya, now Syria, No. Korea, Red China, and the Russian Empire.
I hope that Trump’s team will reverse Obama’s surrender policies and get back in the game of games, again, with a vengeance and “smarts”.
The Dem's have about 3 years to get a LIKEABLE candidate in position to run for POTUS.
Think they'll be able to do it or spend that time whining about losing?
Hillary will try if her health permits it. Rest of the Dem party will move on to somebody else, most likely Liz Warren (less plausible Michelle O), can't think of any 'completely fresh face' that will burst onto the national stage like another Obama comet.
They don't concern about the LIKEABLITY, they have THE MACHINE to run rough shot over us. I don't think they learned (or wish to learn) anything from the Trump victory. How they oppose Trump will tell us everything.
The MACHINE is likely to find that some sand has been tossed into it’s crankcase...
This “report” is as believable as the CIA report describing TWA 800 747 airliner gaining altitude after the fuel tank “explosion”.
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