Posted on 12/18/2016 1:56:52 PM PST by grundle
Yep, the used and junk car lot next door deserves better.
You need to read my comments again. If that’s all you gleaned from them, you missed quite a bit.
Regardless of what the neighbor concern is, the Church does not have the right to unilaterally decide what city codes it will or won’t adhere to.
If you think it does, then I guess you don’t mind them deciding to be an entity that declares itself a sanctuary for illegal immigrants.
The Church needs to tell the Officials that they are Hillary Clinton. Problem solved.
The homeless are used as a weapons against the Church, I’ve seen it here so often. They must go to the Church of the Omnipotent State, not to the Church of God.
Or else.
If the homeless involved were “transgendered”,moslems or wetbacks there’d be no problem.
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Good sentence — you offended three groups in one!
would get you arrested if these were dogs and not men.
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Don’t leave your dog in a car unattended.
Too hot, or ... too cold ... or too dry ... or ...
And then he probably does not have a driver’s license, either.
I have worked with the homeless for 25+ years. This would be a huge mistake.
There are already plenty of homeless shelters which offer indoor accommodation. They are only full on the very coldest of nights because they have rules prohibiting drugs and alcohol. Until a homeless person wants to improve their own condition, all the charity in the world will only enable them to drink more and use more drugs.
No one recovers from alcohol or addiction without first hitting a bottom. Enabling them in any way only increases their chances of dying, because it postpones their trip to a bottom, while allowing the drugs and alcohol to further weaken their bodies.
Scripture also warns us against casting pearls before swine. Too much help is doing just that.
As uncharitable as it sounds, the most practical way of helping the homeless is to force them to take responsibility for their own condition. They need to move out of the residential area and into a shelter.
Yes. Sounds so noble but I can’t imagine congratulating myself for letting someone sleep in the cold on my bench. Truly Christian folks would work with the system and with their community to actually give the homeless a better option. Perhaps it wasn’t a challenge the Pastor wanted but it was the one God sent to her doorstep.
Here in Upper East TN, even though we have a lot of meth and opioid addicts (who are just as unresponsive to intervention as you said), an increasing number are families, some of them up without savings and against a wall because of e.g. medical debt, who couldn't pay their rent/utilities.
My larger point is that they are not dogs: and we wouldn't tolerate this for dogs. There's no merit in letting men in sub-freezing weather camp out on a concrete slab under a tarp. They need to be indoors, at least a shelter with a roof over their heads and hygienic sanitary facilities.
This church should maybe look into that.
Thanks for injecting some common sense.
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Government meddlers strike again!
Maryland “Freak State” PING!
Anti-homeless Nanny State PING!
Being a sanctuary for illegal immigrants violates the country's right to protect itself from foreign invasion (see Catholic Church and various cities). Helping the homeless, on the other hand, for a church is relatively benign, but because of this obnoxious law, I guess they will now be out on the street. I suppose the Salvation Army will be next on the statist chopping block.
How would you like five to twenty-five homeless people hanging out on the property next to you? If you had young daughters you wouldn’t mind seedy old guys hanging out there, some of them being registered sex offenders?
You need to think about what is really going on here.
The Salvation Army is an organized effort that adheres to the city codes where it operates.
This small church wasn’t. It wasn’t equipped to do right by the homeless. It was breaking the law. Those laws aren’t there to damage churches or to hurt the homeless.
They are there to protect homeowners, and make sure that the homeless turn to shelters that can take care of them adequately.
I know you mean well, but there are times when regulations are needed.
No, Tolerance, this is not “meddling” by the government. I saw this story covered on the Baltimore news, and the “minister” was interviewed. She appears to be a babbling leftist and is encouraging hobos to camp out there. And it has not been pleasant for neighboring homeowners.
See the excellent summation by DoughtyOne at #5.
And maybe “Reverend” Katie should take the bums home to sleep at her house if she is so concerned for their welfare.
Thank you for your insight.
There’s also a Catholic Church down near President street that does the same thing. Sometimes there are as many as 10 homeless sleeping on benches on the church grounds, all clearly visible from President Street (which becomes 83 north). It’s a sight not too “charming” to say the least. Not to mention affecting property values.
I agree it’s not real charity to enable self-destructive behavior. That’s what liberals do, throw money (or some other good) at a person in need and then nothing else as if people are just broken machines that require the right extra ingredient or something to work right again.
It’s not charity to let people sleep on park benches and concrete slabs ad infinitum. It’s a cheap self serving conscience salve that helps no one in reality.
Well said.
And, of course, the “homeless” are only becoming visible once again because a Republican is getting ready to take the reins of the presidency. The homeless seem to disappear during Democrat presidencies.
The “news” media made almost no mention of the homeless during the Clinton Administration or during the Jarrett presidency, so the only thing I can figure is that, during those years, the Democrats put up the homeless in swank hotels. But, of course, Republicans are too mean-spirited to help them.
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