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Black Lives Matter & the rape conviction of Okla cop Daniel Holtzclaw
Conservative Review ^ | 12/7/16 | Carly Hoilman

Posted on 12/07/2016 2:50:21 PM PST by 198ml

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To: DoughtyOne

With respect to DNA inside his pants, in the special on Jon Benet Ramsey, they showed that brand new clothes have DNA inside them when you buy them.

They took brand new underwear, tested it for DNA fresh out of the sealed package, and it had, if I recall, two DNA profiles inside it, from the workers at the factory that handled it, checked it, and packed it. The DNA tests today are so sensitive, that the implication is they can pick up on a little flake of dead skin that settles on clothes like dust.

That was why they thought Jon Benet had DNA on her underwear.

This guy’s behavior would indicate he felt innocent. As Duke Lacrosse, and the Rolling Stone case showed, things like this can get out of hand fast, even if you do everything right.

Hopefully the publicity will help him out.


21 posted on 12/07/2016 7:47:41 PM PST by AnonymousConservative (Why did Liberals evolve within our species? www.anonymousconservative.com)
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To: AnonymousConservative

I hope so too, if he’s innocent.

For some reason, family and friends comments left me thinking this was a pretty straight shooter. I could easily be way off base there.

His girl-friend seems to be standing behind him, and his parents are. Wouldn’t be the first time a guilty guy had that much misguided support, but something seemed kind of fishy to me.

That attitude by the police investigator seemed very odd to me.

It almost seemed as if something happened to her at some point and she was trying to make up for it by going rabid on this guy.

These musings are off the cuff. I don’t know these people or what their motivations were. I don’t know he isn’t guilty.

If he is, I hope this injustice is overturned. And if he is, I’d like to see those who put him behind bars have to spend some time there themselves.


22 posted on 12/07/2016 7:54:56 PM PST by DoughtyOne (jcon40, "Are we be coming into the age of Sanity?")
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To: AnonymousConservative

Sometimes I respond by addressing the last thought, and then providing more of my own in agreement.

You provided some interesting facts here. I wanted to come back and address them.

I was unaware the DNA sniffers (or whatever) were that sensitive. Ouch. That makes them worthless in some instances. You really need to make sure you’ve go a sample out of the ordinary then don’t you. The implications for the Ramsey case were interesting too.

I too thought his behavior seemed like an innocent man’s response. If you’ve committed high crimes, you know the gig is up and you have to work every angle. A police officer would know that better than anyone. He’s seen the system work.

Here he simply agrees to whatever she wants. And she thinks he was guilty because he didn’t show emotion?

Man, most women don’t get that negative until they’ve had a ten year relationship with you. LOL


23 posted on 12/07/2016 8:01:23 PM PST by DoughtyOne (jcon40, "Are we be coming into the age of Sanity?")
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To: 198ml

You’d have to ask the original poster.


24 posted on 12/07/2016 9:00:19 PM PST by IronJack
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To: DoughtyOne
Once again though, IF this guy WAS guilty, nobody wants him to pay more than I do.

One of the women described a short black man. One put an attack in a park but GPS from the car refutes that. The DNA guy put a whole different spin on the case. There were several accusers that they never included in the case because they were obviously just making up stuff hoping to cash in. The amount of DNA was microscopic, lot of flags from my perspective.

25 posted on 12/07/2016 11:07:13 PM PST by itsahoot (Three words I don't want to hear, Comprehensive Immigration Reform.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Yeah the DNA being so sensitive was an eye opener to me. In the Ramsey case, when they say there is unidentified DNA in her underwear, whose first thought is it would be there innocently?

But they got the new underwear, and swabbed it right out of the plastic, there it is on the test.

Totally changed how I would view DNA in a trial, and as sensitivity increases, everyone will probably have five or six profiles on them at any one time.

On women, I don’t need any ten year relationship. I will bet I’ve got five or six I wouldn’t even recognize who want to see be burn right now.


26 posted on 12/08/2016 6:03:17 AM PST by AnonymousConservative (Why did Liberals evolve within our species? www.anonymousconservative.com)
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To: itsahoot

Sounds like it.

Thanks for the mentions. I wanted to get up to speed on the anomalies that couldn’t be explained, and you helped.


27 posted on 12/08/2016 11:07:42 AM PST by DoughtyOne (jcon40, "Are we be coming into the age of Sanity?")
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To: AnonymousConservative

You opened my eyes to DNA problems. I wasn’t aware how sensitive the tests were, and how misleading they could be.

I don’t have any that hate me that much that I know of.

Two don’t come close, but they think all manner of bad things about me.

Of course nothing they ever did was out of line. LOL


28 posted on 12/08/2016 11:18:22 AM PST by DoughtyOne (jcon40, "Are we be coming into the age of Sanity?")
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