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Wisconsin election officials declined a request to conduct the new tally by hand
CNN - Madison Wisconsin ^
Posted on 11/28/2016 9:20:23 AM PST by jpeg82
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To: Alberta's Child; goldstategop
“Gore wouldn’t have gained anything by disrupting the Florida legal process “
Are you sure about that? From what I can see, Gore’s EC count was 266 - without FL. If FL had been still mired in a recount morass - thus taking their votes “off the table” - GWB would have (only) had an EC count of 246 (271 - 26 FL EC votes).
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posted on
11/28/2016 9:46:04 AM PST
by
jonno
(Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
To: goldstategop
She also has to have irrefutable proof (beyond a reasonable doubt) of voter fraud and if she does not the recounts will be denied.
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posted on
11/28/2016 9:47:03 AM PST
by
DarthVader
("These lying tyrants are about to get hit with a tsunami of destruction on their evil reign." Gaffer)
To: jonno
The amendment seems pretty clear. Emphasis added:
"The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice."
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posted on
11/28/2016 9:48:03 AM PST
by
SubMareener
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To: OKSooner
Not going to happen.
Recount will be straightforward.
Only moonbat masturbators believe in an upset.
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posted on
11/28/2016 9:48:41 AM PST
by
goldstategop
((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
To: PapaBear3625
Yep, she gets to sock away the millions if she doesn’t go through with payment. Nice Christmas gift to herself.
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posted on
11/28/2016 9:49:41 AM PST
by
bgill
(From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
To: DarthVader
No, she just needs prima facie evidence, a more relaxed standard than irrefutable proof.
But she doesn’t have any.
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posted on
11/28/2016 9:50:02 AM PST
by
goldstategop
((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
To: jonno
Us constitution says majority of electors appointed.
To: jonno
I understand. My point -- based on the legal arguments that were being made by the Bush team back then -- is that a candidate would have needed to get to majority in the Electoral College (270 electoral votes) even if one state's electoral votes were taken "off the table."
If this legal argument is correct, then the 2000 election would have been decided in a special vote of the House of Representatives even if Gore was "ahead" by a 266-246 margin.
I'd be curious to see what any legal experts here on FR might have to say about this.
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posted on
11/28/2016 9:51:18 AM PST
by
Alberta's Child
("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
To: goldstategop
What she suggests happened is also technologically impossible.
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posted on
11/28/2016 9:52:09 AM PST
by
DarthVader
("These lying tyrants are about to get hit with a tsunami of destruction on their evil reign." Gaffer)
To: jpeg82
Everyone knows there is a 1% error in voting - registration numbers are the most inaccurate. Thus, the Dems knew for years they could sue their way to the WH - “crooked” Hillary is more accurate than you might think.
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posted on
11/28/2016 9:52:25 AM PST
by
1Old Pro
To: jonno
. The more general consensus is that at this point it is merely who holds the MAJORITY of EC votes.It's in the 12 Amendment. A majority of the "Appointed" electors. If WI, MI and or PA are not 'appointed' they aren't counted in the total.
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posted on
11/28/2016 9:53:33 AM PST
by
AU72
To: jpeg82
She will withdraw. There is no reason to recount if it cannot be delayed past 12/13.
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posted on
11/28/2016 9:54:16 AM PST
by
ez
("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is..." - Milton)
To: AU72
Safe harbor takes care of appointed electors. All three states have GOP legislatures.
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posted on
11/28/2016 9:54:56 AM PST
by
goldstategop
((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
To: jpeg82
Wisconsin knows how to count and recount votes. They’ve been doing it at the beck and call of crybaby Democrats for years.
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posted on
11/28/2016 9:58:09 AM PST
by
Fido969
To: SubMareener; All
After re-reading the amendment I find myself unsure as to the scope or meaning of the word word "appointed":
...the whole number of Electors appointed... If WI, MI, & PA are still engaged in a recall effort, are their EC votes considered part of the appointed? If so, and Trump has less than 270, and he doesn't have the majority (>= 270).
However, if WI, MI, & PA are tied up and are NOT considered part of the appointed, then he does have the majority with 260 votes to HRC's 232.
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posted on
11/28/2016 9:59:52 AM PST
by
jonno
(Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
To: DarthVader
Oh the irony, she will demonstrate Democrat voter fraud as the rationale for a recount and then try to cheat some more.
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posted on
11/28/2016 10:01:22 AM PST
by
PTBAA
To: PTBAA
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posted on
11/28/2016 10:02:47 AM PST
by
DarthVader
("These lying tyrants are about to get hit with a tsunami of destruction on their evil reign." Gaffer)
To: goldstategop
Gore only needed to win FL where the margin was razor-thin. I was living in Florida at that time (thankfully a couple of years later I escaped).
There was a lot of vote fraud. Much of it painfully obvious. So, while I agree the margin was very close, it was not nearly as close as the official tally. In addition to the seemingly endless boxes of ballots discovered in broom closets several Democratic run counties refused to accept military absentee ballots. It was heartbreaking to see elected officials (libs) get on TV with straight faces and shovel their crap about refusing to count military ballots. A lib I had been good friends with for years told me he thought it was great because it might give the state to Gore. That changed our friendship.
PS: I will also never forgive the Republican voters in Florida that walked away from the polls without voting because the networks called the state for Gore. I refused to do that. My vote is going to be counted no matter what.
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posted on
11/28/2016 10:05:56 AM PST
by
ChildOfThe60s
("If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there")
To: spokeshave
. . . or an invasion from outer space destroys the Capitol building with an atomic ray gun!
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posted on
11/28/2016 10:06:31 AM PST
by
MrChips
(Ad sapientiam pertinet aeternarum rerum cognitio intellectualis - St. Augustine)
To: AU72
That is what I’m trying to determine (my post #35) - what does “appointed” actually mean in leagaleaze?
I could see where one could make the argument that “appointed” simply means it is someone who was appointed (chosen) by their state to be one the the EC voters - for that state. If this is true, then the 270+ hurdle still has to be overcome.
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posted on
11/28/2016 10:06:59 AM PST
by
jonno
(Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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