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Fatal Shooting; Expired Permit; no Charges
ammoland ^ | 18 November, 2016 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 11/22/2016 11:43:05 AM PST by marktwain

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On Wednesday, 16 November, 2016, two brothers decided to rob a Bucks County pizza shop in Levitown, Pennsylvania. It was just after 10 p.m. The shop had closed only moments before, but there was one customer left inside.

During the robbery, one of the brothers, Shawn Rose, pistol whipped the customer on the forehead.  The customer dropped to one knee.

In a fluid and rapidly changing situation, it is very hard for perpetrators to keep track of all the actors. It only takes a momentary lapse to give a victim a chance to strike back.

Rose looked away. The customer drew a .45 caliber Glock 30 or 36 from his pocket, and shot both brothers. Shawn was killed and Justin was critically wounded in the throat and shoulder. From nbcphiladelphia.com:

Shawn Rose allegedly pistol-whipped the customer in the forehead causing him to drop down to one knee. As Shawn Rose looked away for a moment, the customer pulled out his own .45 caliber handgun from his jacket and fired one shot, striking him in the torso, officials said.

Officials said the customer then fired two shots at Justin Rose, striking him in the throat and shoulder area. Justin Rose fell through the door of the store. The customer then aimed his weapon at the two brothers until police arrived.

Every fatal shooting is fraught with consequences.  In this case, there was an added complexity.  The shooter had a concealed carry permit, but the permit was expired.

Weintraub said the customer could have been charged however because he had an expired permit to carry a concealed weapon. They decided not to charge him “based on the totality of the circumstances.” 


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
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1 posted on 11/22/2016 11:43:05 AM PST by marktwain
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They need to be charged, convicted, and shot to death at a pizza parlor, with the pizza just out of reach.


2 posted on 11/22/2016 11:44:11 AM PST by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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The customer drew a .45 caliber Glock 30 or 36 from his pocket, and shot both brothers. Shawn was killed and Justin was critically wounded in the throat and shoulder.

That's some damn good shooting - particularly after having been pistol-whipped.

3 posted on 11/22/2016 11:45:27 AM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: marktwain

Good shoot, glad to see the prosecutor made a smart decision.


4 posted on 11/22/2016 11:45:56 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: marktwain

They must not have been black robbers or the cops would have charged him because of the expired permit.


5 posted on 11/22/2016 11:46:36 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: marktwain
Weintraub said the customer could have been charged however because he had an expired permit to carry a concealed weapon.They decided not to charge him “based on the totality of the circumstances.”

And, of course, the fact that the weapon was not concealed when the police arrived...

6 posted on 11/22/2016 11:47:32 AM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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The prosecutor knew he’d be wasting his time because he’d never get a conviction.


7 posted on 11/22/2016 11:49:53 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: marktwain

Permit? Second amendment.


8 posted on 11/22/2016 11:50:01 AM PST by HWGruene (REMEMBER THE ALAMO!)
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The prosecutor mentioned that the state has open carry without a permit.


9 posted on 11/22/2016 11:51:08 AM PST by marktwain
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Two brothers, later identified as Shawn Rose, 24, and Justin Rose, 22, entered the shop carrying realistic-looking airsoft guns, according to Bucks County District Attorney Matt Weintraub.

“They had the security feature, that orange tip, removed so that they looked and felt like real guns,” said Weintraub.


10 posted on 11/22/2016 11:51:33 AM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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Based on the totality of the incident, the Prosecutor acted appropriately.


11 posted on 11/22/2016 11:51:40 AM PST by ZULU (We are freedom's safest place!!!! #BOYCOTT HAMILTON!!! #BOYCOTT NEW YORK CITY!!!!!!!)
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Whoops! Don’t bring an air gun to a gun fight...


12 posted on 11/22/2016 11:54:41 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: WayneS

Great choice of caliber. Wonder if it was .45 ACP or .45 Colt?


13 posted on 11/22/2016 11:57:13 AM PST by ZULU (We are freedom's safest place!!!! #BOYCOTT HAMILTON!!! #BOYCOTT NEW YORK CITY!!!!!!!)
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... particularly after having been pistol-whipped.

Well, I think it may have been a fake pistol...

...at least according to one article I came across trying to find pictures of the per..., er, alleged persons of interest.

One comment was "Can the guy in the hospital sue the news station for calling him "brother"?".

14 posted on 11/22/2016 11:58:08 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: TBP

“They need to be charged, convicted, and shot to death at a pizza parlor, with the pizza just out of reach.”


Am I missing something?

The customer who shot the robber was not charged. You think he should have been?

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15 posted on 11/22/2016 11:58:39 AM PST by Mears
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To: marktwain

Combo toppings...


16 posted on 11/22/2016 12:03:34 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through you're anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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Sniff Sniff I just love a happy ending....


17 posted on 11/22/2016 12:04:05 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: ZULU

Glocks are not chambered in .45 Colt.


18 posted on 11/22/2016 12:04:27 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Oops. Right.


19 posted on 11/22/2016 12:04:58 PM PST by ZULU (We are freedom's safest place!!!! #BOYCOTT HAMILTON!!! #BOYCOTT NEW YORK CITY!!!!!!!)
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If it was a Glock, it was either a .45 ACP or .45 GAP. “It make heap big hole!” (Is that culturally insensitive of me...?)


20 posted on 11/22/2016 12:05:06 PM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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