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Can France Still Afford Nuclear Weapons?
The Strategist, ASPI ^ | November 7, 2016 | Paul Soyez

Posted on 11/08/2016 2:54:34 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

France has a deep and abiding relationship with nuclear technology. French policy-makers have based France’s energy and military independence around nuclear programs. However, as the French government attempts to justify its budget policies in the lead-up to the presidential election in April 2017, calls for a public debate on the cost of military nuclear deterrence are increasing.

This debate encompasses three main questions. Should France still base its global defence strategy on nuclear deterrence? If yes, how should nuclear deterrence be conducted? Finally, how should the state efficiently budget for this strategic investment?

Questions about the future of the nuclear program come from the growing cost of France’s nuclear deterrent. France’s nuclear arsenal is currently fully operational but will soon require a complete modernisation. Within the next 30 years, French forces will need new submarines, aircraft and missiles. To achieve this, France’s current military nuclear expenditure of €3.4 billion a year, which equals 10% of the French Ministry of Defense’s total budget, will need a significant increase. By 2025, nuclear deterrence will cost French taxpayers an estimated €6 billion a year or more. Where will future French governments find €120 billion over 20 years?

Even faced with budgetary constraints, it seems very unlikely that France will give up the modernization of its nuclear program, which is key to its defence strategy. French public opinion and policy-makers are deeply attached to maintaining France’s strategy of sovereignty and independence, as explained in the most recent French Defense White Paper in 2013. However, some French policy makers have criticised Paris’ reliance on nuclear deterrence, asserting that a modernization of the equipment constitutes vertical proliferation. By doing so, it’s argued, France would contradict its commitment to nuclear non-proliferation and send the wrong signal to Asian nuclear powers.

Nonetheless, if France chooses to maintain its nuclear arsenal, how should it be composed? President Hollande has explained that France plans to maintain the two elements of France’s nuclear strike: submarines and jet aircraft. That decision is contested by Major General Vincent Desportes, a French professor of strategy who believes that France should modernize its nuclear submarine program but should fully dedicate its airpower to conventional operations. That would reduce nuclear costs and provide more equipment to support the troops. The new French President will have to choose to either support modernization studies of both nuclear armed submarines and aircraft, or to choose one.

If, as seems likely, the next government decides to renew its nuclear-armed submarines, DCNS should start building France’s third generation of deterrent submarines by 2019. The costs will be considerable, since Paris will have to modernize its nuclear missiles and communication capabilities for command and control. These new missiles would then be delivered by 2035 with the first new submarine. Moreover, if France were to decide in 2017 to renew its airborne nuclear delivery capability as well, the country would have to dedicate a significant part of its airpower to nuclear deterrence. After all this movement Paris would have two options to manage its defense budget.

The first option would be to reduce the budget dedicated to conventional forces. In a context of considerable terrorist threats and French involvement in several military operations in the Middle East and Africa, that option would deeply challenge France’s security policies. It seems difficult to imagine how the state could make more cuts to the defense budget, which has already been reduced by 20% between 1980 and 2014, with troop numbers recently reduced from 330,000 to 275,000.

Moreover, in 2015, François Hollande increased the defense budget and put an end to troop cuts, arguing that France, faced with critical threats to its security, needed a stronger army. Further weakening French conventional forces would then seem dangerous.

The second option would be to substantially increase the defense budget as a whole in order to maintain funding to conventional forces while modernizing the nuclear arsenal. France currently spends 1.78% of its GDP on military expenditure, but would need to increase spending to at least 2% in order to fully finance the modernization of its nuclear arsenal. This option is politically difficult to implement because public opinion would criticise any government cutting €120 billion from education or other public services over the next two decades.

Discussions about the future of nuclear deterrence have been rare. ‘It has been 50 years that French people are not consulted on the matter. There is a sort of soft consensus,’ explains Major General Desportes. But that unquestioned acceptation of deterrence programs is beginning to be challenged. It will be interesting to see if French deputies and senators will be allowed by the next President to debate such a crucial issue, for the sake of France’s democracy.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: france; nuclear; nuke; russia

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1 posted on 11/08/2016 2:54:34 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Why does France have nuclear weapons? Just to troll the Brits?


2 posted on 11/08/2016 2:56:42 AM PST by tellw
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To: sukhoi-30mki

“The Lord’s my shepherd, says the Psalm,

but just in case, we’d better get a bomb”

Tom Lehrer


3 posted on 11/08/2016 2:58:01 AM PST by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

France can build the planes, but with Muslimes in police and military positions, France can no longer be trusted with nukes.


4 posted on 11/08/2016 3:05:55 AM PST by Does so ("Oversampling Dems" means Soros' adjustments will give Hellery an acceptable landslide. ==8-O)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Financially maybe, but with all of the Allahu Akbar people they have running loose in their country, I’d say NO.


5 posted on 11/08/2016 3:22:02 AM PST by EvilCapitalist (At least Richard Nixon had the decency to resign when caught in wrong doing.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

By 2035, France will be a memory and the land currently occupied by France will be a part of the Muslim Greater Caliphate.


6 posted on 11/08/2016 3:54:22 AM PST by Truth29
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To: sukhoi-30mki
This story reminds me of the old joke...why are streets of Paris all lined with trees? Because the Germans like to march in the shade.

France puts its hands up in surrender...yet again.Vlad Putin his laughing his a$$ off right now.

7 posted on 11/08/2016 4:27:47 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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To: tellw
Why does France have nuclear weapons?

Counter Value nuclear strike

Detante

8 posted on 11/08/2016 4:36:20 AM PST by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!)
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To: Does so

“France can build the planes, but with Muslimes in police and military positions, France can no longer be trusted with nukes.”

Not to worry as France becomes more Muslim, the economy will weaken and break to the point that the French will have to chose between being a third world nation with nukes or a second world one without. In the end history, has proven that politicians will always take the easy way out and gut their military in favor of more bread and circus.


9 posted on 11/08/2016 4:38:44 AM PST by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: tellw
France is based on a bygone sense of pride, a former colonial power reduced to baguette bread, pastries and fashion.

A once proud and powerful nation, now, only retains a distinct language and can never admit the abysmal failures of the 20th century or who saved their derrieres, (USA).

They are stuck up, nose in the air cheese eating surrender monkeys who left NATO to have an “INDEPENDENT” deterrent.

They are but a mere shell of their former selves and they know it hence, they stick to their nationalistic pride.

If the US elects Hillary, she too will become a former shell of her previous superpower status.

10 posted on 11/08/2016 4:44:07 AM PST by Netz ( and looking for a way ti IMPROVE mankind.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The question is moot

Islam will and is destroying France from within


11 posted on 11/08/2016 4:47:30 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Hilary is an Ameriphobe)
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To: Truth29

Everything I know about the future of France I learned from Camp of the Saints.


12 posted on 11/08/2016 5:17:53 AM PST by T-Bone Texan (Don't be a lone wolf. Form up small leaderlesss cells ASAP !)
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To: tellw

Back in the 50s none of them trusted relying on getting US support in a crisis. Hard to believe now.


13 posted on 11/08/2016 6:20:39 PM PST by Oztrich Boy ("Laws are for the guidance of wise men and the blind obedience of fools" Solon, Lawmaker of Athens)
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