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Feds Walk Into A Building, Demand Everyone's Fingerprints To Open Phones
Forbes ^ | Thomas Fox Brewster

Posted on 10/17/2016 2:58:02 PM PDT by MeganC

Link only - not sure of copyright issues with Forbes.

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


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Summary: The US Department of Justice got a search warrant for a home in Lancaster, California and part of the warrant gave them the authority to force everyone in the house to supply their fingerprints so the Feds could search their fingerprint-locked phones.

The whole thing boils down to the Feds wanting warrants to authorize fishing expeditions...meaning they want to be able to get a warrant to allow them to look for things they don't know about and then be able to use those things as evidence against you. How the hell is that Constitutional????

1 posted on 10/17/2016 2:58:02 PM PDT by MeganC
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To: MeganC
Evil.

A good reason never to use the fingerprint unlock. I do not.

2 posted on 10/17/2016 3:00:54 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: MeganC

I don’t see Forbes on the copyright list.

;-)


3 posted on 10/17/2016 3:01:02 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Gear Up)
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To: MeganC

Don’t use finger print security.

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2014/10/31/judge-rules-suspect-can-be-required-to-unlock-phone-with-fingerprint/


4 posted on 10/17/2016 3:03:14 PM PDT by 31R1O
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To: MeganC

Time to have an OS with multiple fingerprints in it. If you give the correct finger or pattern of fingers you get in. Use the wrong ones and it wipes the phone (with a cloth?). Then the FBI not only needs your prints, they also need to know left middle, left index, left middle to get in. Use the right index and the data goes away.


5 posted on 10/17/2016 3:06:48 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (If Muammar Gaddafi had donated to the Clinton Foundation he would still be alive and in power today.)
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To: MeganC

which is why I do not use a fingerprint to unlock my phone.


OT: I get a 500 Internal Server Error more often than not in the past 1 hr or so.


6 posted on 10/17/2016 3:08:39 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: MeganC

General warrants are illegal.


7 posted on 10/17/2016 3:08:39 PM PDT by Red Steel
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Aren’t everyone’s prints already on file through the DMV?


8 posted on 10/17/2016 3:09:37 PM PDT by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: MeganC

I found a great work-around on this. It allows me to still use my fingerprint for access.

I decided about 45 years ago not to do anything illegal.

I’ve screwed up a couple of times since then, but my phone would never figure in, and I just don’t bother doing things I don’t want to pay the penalty for.

Law enforcement is able to access my phone with no problem.


9 posted on 10/17/2016 3:12:38 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (22 days: Until Presdient Pre-elect becomes President Elect Donald J. Trump. Help is on the way!)
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To: MeganC

The whole thing boils down to the Feds wanting warrants to authorize fishing expeditions...meaning they want to be able to get a warrant to allow them to look for things they don’t know about and then be able to use those things as evidence against you. How the hell is that Constitutional????

...

Are you sure? A warrant is supposed to state specifically what they are looking for.


10 posted on 10/17/2016 3:13:23 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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decided about 45 years ago not to do anything illegal.

What will you do when they retroactively decide that you did something illegal?

Google "Three Felonies A Day".

11 posted on 10/17/2016 3:14:42 PM PDT by justlurking
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Yes not good today at all, been slow but today worse for that.


12 posted on 10/17/2016 3:15:18 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: KarlInOhio

Plus — record some of the prints upside down and/or sideways — and add in a few toes... ‘-)


13 posted on 10/17/2016 3:16:13 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias; "Barack": Allah's current ally; "Comey": Barack's current toadie...)
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Aren’t everyone’s prints already on file through the DMV?

The iPhone can't easily be opened without a "live" fingerprint. The technology looks for biometric factors to be sure it's a real finger, and not an impression or a print.

I think that someone has been able to defeat it, after a lot of trial-and-error. But, that was an early version of the sensor.

14 posted on 10/17/2016 3:18:07 PM PDT by justlurking
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To: DoughtyOne

Are you sure you’re safe? Most of us leave our email accounts signed in on our phones. I leave FreeRepublic signed in on my iPad.

It is getting to the place where stipulating that “All Lives Matter” would be considered hate speech in some locales. Discouraging words against a certain “religion” (a disguised political movement) is Islamaphobic. And you better be willing to bake a cake for ALL groups, if asked. Would you really pass muster?


15 posted on 10/17/2016 3:20:55 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: TXnMA
record some of the prints upside down and/or sideways

The iPhone stores fingerprints in a position independent fashion. So, it doesn't matter what orientation you use -- it will unlock the phone.

16 posted on 10/17/2016 3:21:50 PM PDT by justlurking
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To: justlurking

I’m at the point in my life where I couldn’t care less.

If they can come up with something I did that comes within twenty miles of a felony, they deserve to get me for the effort alone.


17 posted on 10/17/2016 3:22:05 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (22 days: Until Presdient Pre-elect becomes President Elect Donald J. Trump. Help is on the way!)
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To: TXnMA
record some of the prints upside down and/or sideways

The iPhone stores fingerprints in a position independent fashion. So, it doesn't matter what orientation you use -- it will unlock the phone.

18 posted on 10/17/2016 3:22:25 PM PDT by justlurking
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To: bgill
Aren’t everyone’s prints already on file through the DMV?

Not in NC, at least not the last time I renewed. I don't remember them ever getting it.

19 posted on 10/17/2016 3:22:35 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: the_Watchman

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3481664/posts?page=17#17


20 posted on 10/17/2016 3:23:59 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (22 days: Until Presdient Pre-elect becomes President Elect Donald J. Trump. Help is on the way!)
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